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Paul-Iosif Guralivu (2006-04-18 12:43:47)
Deadline ?
When is the deadline for a player which didn't moved ? In IECG is 10 days... Is in FICGS some limite ?
Thibault de Vassal (2006-04-18 13:25:56)
Time limit per move
If a player has 60 days and more on his clock, the deadline for one move is 60 days ! This is a provisional (quite good, I think) solution before question of vacation be answered. Many players can't play every day and correspondence chess games usually last several months, often more than 1 year.
It seems server games go much faster than email games, but rules 40 days + 40 days / 10 moves are the same.
Time limit per move in IECG is 30 days. Here, a 60 days limit (a rating period) don't seem too much to me. Players won't feel oppressed (Glen, turn email notification off :)) and I think they won't use it often.
RAPID TOURNAMENTS are an alternative solution.
Thibault
Thibault de Vassal (2006-06-13 18:28:54)
FICGS chess world championship 1 & 2
Hello to all.
FICGS chess world championship deadline (2006 june 15) is 2 days far from now ! Here is the scheme, allowing all players who registered to start playing at the same time, without loosing the opportunity for new players to register at a later date :
As 2300+ players will enter the cycle at stage 2, the idea is to start 1st (from stage 2) and 2nd (from stage 1) world championship at the same time. Thus, all tournaments will begin at the fixed date for all players who already registered, then a new deadline will be fixed (probably in august/september), and all players registering late for chess wch would begin a tournament each time there's enough new players in the waiting list, with the condition that the ELO average of these new tournaments be equal or superior (as few as possible) to the tournaments that began on June 15.
And good luck to all... :)
Tim Bredernitz (2006-06-18 16:35:30)
Confused...
I understand the rules of the tournament fairly well, but I'm still having trouble figuring out when the games will start. The last post says that the deadline is June 15, but when I check the waiting list it says the deadline is July 1st. I'd just like to know when the games will start being played. Thank you.
Thibault de Vassal (2006-06-18 23:20:14)
Deadline / Start date
Hello Tim.
FICGS 1st wch will start on 2006 july 1st. A new deadline will be fixed, so that players can begin other tournaments lately, but all players who entered the waiting list already will begin their games on july 1st.
Thomas Gilbreath (2006-09-16 23:46:58)
Udate from GameKnot:
I just wanted to give you guys a heads up as to the players from my site that are being CONSIDERED for playing in the match. As ratings fluctuate, I have simply rounded and given approximate strength: mateintwo - 2400+ cyrano - 2400+ cairo - 2300+ fmgaigin - 2300+ drdesoto - 2300+ papani - 2300+ harlekin - 2300+ nestorix - 2300+ drunken_rabbit - 2200+ kumpan - 2200+ grandpatzer - 2200+ os5213 - 2200+ carlosmart - 2200+ chrisp - 2100+ nottop - 2100+ gloomy_den - 1900+ thumper - 1700+ gwalchmai - 1600+ tugger - 1600+ yanm - 1500+ mattw - 1500+ patagusto - 1500+ tag1153 - 1400+ cjjpeterson - 1400+ simian9 - 1400+ eqj2 - 1400+ hollcanna - 1300+ dewillget8 - 1200+ mozz - 1200+ These GameKnot players have expressed an interest in playing. More will sign on I'm sure, as I have set Oct 1, 2006 as the sign up deadline. I will put together our team during the first week of October, and will be ready to commence play by the second week of October. During the interim, Thibault and I will finalize the details of the match. I realize that this short list is very master and expert heavy, but have no worries - I will be contacting more of our A, B, C, and D class players and asking them to participate. We look forward to the match:) Thomas
Thomas Gilbreath (2006-09-24 02:45:17)
One week till our sign up deadline:
To my friends at FICGS - the GameKnot team will be set in one week. Thibault - please begin finalizing your team. I will send you (via e-mail) my proposed matchups by Oct 2, 2006. Thomas
Thibault de Vassal (2007-11-23 17:25:21)
free entry
Michael had retired from the waiting list just before, but anyway you're right, this rule could be added to the terms, maybe with a deadline. To be discussed... About the first tournament, it had been postponed a long time before the start (seems to me). Hmm, will be even more challenging :)
Thibault de Vassal (2008-03-30 07:25:30)
Freestyle cup : Rules & start
There was a small conflict in the rules, now corrected : The first game will start at 13:00 server time, not 15:00
Current rules :
FICGS advanced chess "freestyle" cup is a 6 rounds swiss tournament with entry fee and prize, played in a single day. Entry fees are E-Points that you can buy in 'My account'. Read carefully terms and conditions, particularly Entry fees & Prize money sections before to play tournaments with entry fees.
All games are played in 30 minutes + 15 seconds / move. Norms are not possible.
The first round will start at the date and hour (13:00 server time) indicated as "deadline". Next rounds will start at 15:00, 17:00, 19:00, 21:00 and 23:00 server time. Please register carefully as it is not possible to retire from the waiting list. It is strongly recommended to display the chat bar to communicate with the tournament director.
If several players obtain the best score and the best Sonnenborn-Berger, they will share the prize. It is possible to forfeit all next games (that will be unrated for the advanced chess rating list) during the tournament.
FIDE GM & IM, FICGS / ICCF GM, SM & IM are invited to enter the waiting list for free.. Please just send a message to webmaster through My account page to register. You may be asked to send a copy of your passport or ID card. The tournament might be cancelled if less than 7 players registered before the deadline, in this case entry fees will be given back to the players.
An extra fee, usually 30% of the entry fee, will be added to the entry fee 2 days before the start of the tournament.
Graham Cridland (2008-04-17 02:09:23)
Anand is currently WC
Incidentally, FIDE extended the bid deadline to let the Ukrainian sponsors try again to get a larger sum under bank guarantee. They say they have $750K! But they probably don't.
Thibault de Vassal (2008-06-05 01:31:43)
Top players in Wch 5
Hi Marc,
It is possible that some 2400+ players wait until the deadline before to entry the waiting list to know if they will play the knockout or the round-robin tournament, just as before I think. Anyway, I assume that most 2300+ players have running games and wait to know if they'll be able to manage some more games.
Best, Thibault
Marc Lacrosse (2008-07-05 19:36:23)
Qualification information ?
Because i did not realise that I had qualified for two WCh tournaments I recently enrolled for a third one and had three tournaments beginning almost simultaneously in january, which proved to be too much for me.
And now the deadline for the next Wch (005)is approaching and it just seems that i will win WCH_STAGE_1_GROUP_M_01__000004.
So I am hesitating : when will Wch-004 next stage begin ?
I do not wish anymore to have more than one tournament starting almost at the same time.
More generally speaking, I wish I could get the following infos permanently updated on my "My messages" page :
* I enrolled for a tournament of type X on date Y. Presently there are already Z players enrolled for this tournament.
* I registered for championship X on date Y. this is supposed to start on date Z.
* In tournament Wch-X my present result ensures (or leaves the possibility open) that I will be qualified for next stage tournament that is supposed to begin on date Y.
Your opinion ?
Marc
Thibault de Vassal (2008-12-13 23:42:25)
FICGS poker holdem championship
The waiting list for the 1st FICGS poker holdem championship is open, as all ratings are not established, the rating limit has been changed to 1600.
Only the 9 highest rated players at the beginning of the tournament (february 1, 2009) will play it, consequently the best way to improve your rating before the deadline is probably to play POKER HOLDEM BULLET BRONZE games (you may use the challenge function in My games).
The current rules :
"FICGS world poker holdem championship is a 2 stages tournament. First stage is a single round-robin tournament, involving the 9 highest rated players who entered the waiting list. The winner of this tournament is the challenger for FICGS world champion title. In case of equality, the player with the strongest tournament entry rating (TER) is qualified for the next stage. If tournament entry ratings are equal, ratings when the next stage begins will be taken in account. If current world champion defends his title, he will play a 5 games match (3 games with White, 2 games with Black) against his challenger.
All games are played in 30 days + 1 day / move. Rules for poker holdem are official rules. You may find more information about the FICGS betting structure in FICGS rules. Both players must play until one resign or game is adjudicated. One game is played in 3 winning rounds of 100 chips by player played in no limit mode. The minimal bet is always 1 chip and does not depend on the blind's value. The small blind's value is doubled after the 50th hand, then after the 70th, 80th, 90th and 100th hand (the big blind then is 64 chips) of each round."
Thibault de Vassal (2009-02-02 21:54:00)
Poker championship : New rules, deadline
Finally, a 2 stages single round-robin tournament (no ratings limit, everyone can play) seems a better choice for the poker holdem championship !
The deadline is now february 8, 2009... Join the fun !
Here are the new rules :
"FICGS world poker holdem championship is a 2 stages single round-robin tournament. All games are played in 30 days + 1 day / move.
Round-robin tournaments are groups of at least 7 players. The winner of each group is qualified for the next stage. In case of equality, the player with the strongest tournament entry rating (TER) is qualified for the next stage. If tournament entry ratings are equal, ratings when the next stage begins will be taken in account. Groups are built grading all players by rating and distributing them to obtain similar elo averages. Players may be invited to complete a group or to replace a forfeiting player.
Rules for poker holdem are official rules. You may find more information about the FICGS betting structure here. Both players must play until one resign or game is adjudicated. One game is played in 3 winning rounds of 100 chips by player played in no limit mode. The minimal bet is always 1 chip and does not depend on the blind's value. The small blind's value is doubled after the 50th hand, then after the 70th, 80th, 90th and 100th hand (the big blind then is 64 chips) of each round."
Vadim Khachaturov (2009-04-27 22:15:23)
Team tournament.
Thibault, I think You should open a waiting list with a some deadline point. After that time the teams of four can be created according to the average rating. IMO the teams average ratings should be as close as possible to each other.
Wayne Lowrance (2009-06-29 23:19:38)
dad blame it Thibault
I want to enter, it says deadline nov 1 2009, but it says's closed. whats's up mate ?. (second request)
Wayne
Garvin Gray (2010-10-22 17:01:57)
Freestyle Fun
Deadline : 2010 october 30 - 13:00 server time
Thib- Can you please confirm that the times mentioned above are accurate for when play will be occurring for the upcoming freestyle tournament.
Also would you be able to post some time zone conversions for major cities, so all of us from all over the world can work off those times.
Cheers,
Garvin
Thibault de Vassal (2011-12-05 17:28:11)
Timing
About the rules:
"All games are played in 30 minutes + 10 seconds / move. Komi is 7.5 points. The first three rounds will start at the date indicated as "deadline" at 13:00, 15:00 and 17:00 server time. The last three rounds will start at 13:00, 15:00 and 17:00 server time the next day. It is possible to enter the waiting list until the end of the tournament (please also warn the tournament director). Please do not try to create any game by yourself as all games will be created by the tournament director."
Server time is french time...
Don Groves (2012-12-02 04:50:44)
Problem with new groups for the chess WC
On the entry page for the Chess WCH is written:
deadline : 2012 november 1st
Since new entries are still being accepted, it appears that "deadline" is an incorrect word here. Is there a real deadline and, if so, when is it?
Don Groves (2012-12-02 11:48:49)
Problem with new groups for the chess WC
OK, I understand accepting players past the deadline to replace those who have dropped out. But what is the rationale for adding new groups after the deadline?
Thibault de Vassal (2012-12-02 12:45:42)
Problem with new groups for the chess WC
Robert/Stephane, it is also mentioned in the WCH rules: "Groups are built grading all players by rating and distributing them to obtain similar elo averages."
By the way all similar groups must have the same number of players, otherwise it would be impossible to be fair when building the next round tournaments.
@Don: Yes, the deadline does not change but there are a few lines in "My messages" that explain that it is still possible to enter the waiting list (without guarantee to be included in a tournament).
Garvin Gray (2012-12-02 12:48:21)
Problem with new groups for the chess WC
I agree with Don. Whilst not liking it, I understand for norm purposes and 'fairer' qualification chances between different groups, replacements are required.
I really do hope that the replacements are of similar rating to the player who forfeited their games.
But I certainly do not agree with adding new groups or players. All these players have entered the waiting list because they entered after the deadline.
If they get a run, they have been fortunate. To those who miss out, the message should be enter on time next time to guarantee your spot.
So Thibault, I think you are complicating matters way too much. Make the replacements to counteract the forfeits and that is it.
Garvin Gray (2012-12-02 13:51:13)
Problem with new groups for the chess WC
Nick- Did not have the oppportunity???? The waiting list for the wch is open for a month, sometimes even more. Any player who wants to enter can do so at any stage between when the waiting list opens and when it closes. So they have 24 hours a day, 7 days a week for four or more weeks to enter.
It is not like the entry period for the waiting list is only open for a couple of days.
The only people who could claim they did not have much opportunity to enter were those who only just joined the site before the waiting list closed.
As for why some of us might be 'getting too uptight'. Those who entered by the deadline have been seeded correctly as per the rules. Which means for some they have been placed in M groups with all those players being rated over 2200.
To now see the possibility of having a weak M group, which means those who have entered by the deadline have now been substantially disadvantaged compared to those who entered late.
I really do not care at all for your 'we are getting too uptight' argument Nick.
Those who respond have every right to debate the pros and cons of what is being proposed.
If you have something to actually add to this issue in terms of finding an acceptable answer for Thibault's conundrum, or wish to try and point out why his solution is not a good one, then feel free to add something to the debate and thread.
A few of us have pointed issues with Thibault's idea and our disagreement with the whole approach. That is our right to do so.
None of us have been abusive, derogatory or demeaning of anyone else, even if we disagree with the other viewpoints.
If I am an example of getting too uptight, in your opinion, so be it, but I do not like at all when players are able to enter late and even more when they look like, or are, getting an advantage they would not have gotten if they entered before the deadline.
Don Groves (2012-12-03 03:24:28)
Problem with new groups for the chess WC
To clarify my position on this matter: I was not implying I don't like adding new groups after the deadline, I was simply asking for the rationale for doing so. My view is that we are all better off if these kinds of things are written in the rules so there are no surprises of this sort.
Thibault de Vassal (2012-12-05 14:20:36)
Problem with new groups for the chess WC
Well, at the end I think that best is to do the same than in the previous editions. If I can build only one group then be it.
A few players will be picked up randomly to have a similar rating average. At least, as Garvin says, there will be a consequence for all players who entered the waiting list after the deadline, which seems fair.
The new group(s) will be created tomorrow.
Robert Knighton (2012-12-14 01:18:09)
WBCCC 2013
what is the deadline for entry into this event?
Nick Burrows (2013-01-10 18:30:03)
Chess Server Team Tournament
yes I think some of our ratings are way under the actual level. My rating is 1934, but would be more accurate at 2300.
We should simply take our 30 highest rated players at the deadline for registaration in order to do Ficgs justice.
Daniel Parmet (2013-01-11 00:31:14)
Chess Server Team Tournament
How sad that they did not bother to tell us there was a hard deadline. Seems quite improper. They send an invite then rescind it!
Garvin Gray (2013-01-11 03:31:52)
Chess Server Team Tournament
They were after eight teams and they received that number before the hard deadline of Jan 15.
As they received the maximum number, they are right to close it. No point waiting when you are already have your maximum number.
Thibault de Vassal (2013-03-13 13:12:49)
Announcement
Hi all,
The 5th FICGS freestyle tournament will happen on april 6 & 7 (2013) - three rounds each day at 13:00, 15:00, 17:00 server time. The format will be the same (30 minutes + 15 seconds per move) than for the previous edition.
Entry fee : 10 Epoints, prize : 100% Fees + 70 Epoints
Deadline : 2013 april 6 - 12:00 server time
This time, just like other players, IM, SM & GM will have to enter the waiting list by themselves (entry fee : 10 Epoints), but they will recover their Epoints if they play all rounds.
Best regards,
Thibault
Thibault de Vassal (2014-11-08 21:05:19)
Registered for Go WCH 12
Hello Jing,
The reason is you entered the waiting list after that the tournament started (deadline was november 1st)... You may have played it in case of a replacement but it seems there will be no spot this time, sorry about that.
Nathan Austin (2015-07-02 22:27:27)
A couple of questions
1) Where can I find the rules that are in force for the various world championship tourneys?
2) It seemed to me that the three world championship tourneys all had the same deadline. At this point I have some chess games, but I don't have any go games, nor do I have any poker games. When will those tourneys start?
Bogoljub Teverovski (2015-11-16 21:53:45)
FICGS chess cup : proposal
It's necessary to insert a deadline (Nov 30 the latest) for discussions, and to make final choice quickly (by Dec 10 the latest).
Thibault de Vassal (2015-11-17 02:34:49)
FICGS chess cup : proposal
Why not a deadline... with a few more opinions, I think it will be possible (if it goes in one direction more than another)!
Anyway, we see that new opinions bring more and more questions and differences :)
On Sergey's points: First of all, I must say that if I could have brought bigger prizes for tournaments, there wouldn't have been such discussions, the whole thing (WCH particularly) would probably work better... but this is not the case, unfortunately :/
As I already said, multi-rounds tournaments are not compatible with longer time controls, and that's a pity. That's why I proposed a 1 round big tourney with a longer time control, but many players seem to be used to the rapid (or even faster) one. Finally, the schedule you propose looks like Garvin's one.
Thibault de Vassal (2018-01-10 22:29:48)
1st King Supertournament
Dear chessfriends, FICGS Android apps are now bringing a really different playing experience!
All 4 apps are now dedicated to either chess, Go or Poker Holdem (or all games) with specific features that make it easier and compliant with laws in more countries, that's why it is now useful to install them all and use it according to your taste at the moment.
Of course, it is more dedicated to "chess for fun", that's why it's a good time to start the very 1st FICGS chess King Supertournament:
- No engines or databases allowed
- Unrated thematic tournament: King's gambit
- Marathon tournament : unlimited number of players / games
- Flash deadline: The tournament will start on January 17th, 2018
Will you dare to enter this much fun and challenging waiting list? :)
Finally, these apps are very good news for FICGS as new players are coming again... It was really time, particularly after the last server crash! Now I'll make my possible to make FICGS great again, or even greater :)
Garvin Gray (2018-11-18 03:12:48)
World Championship Groups
I see in the chat box there is a comment about adding players for a new group in the WCH.
This should not be allowed and is a bad idea. The original groups were worked out based on ratings available at the close of entry.
And also now this new group will be a rating scattered group, rather than being similar to the others.
Players have protested before about adding players and new groups well after the entry deadline has passed. I have frankly had a gutful of having to protest about it.
It is one of main things that is turning me off this site. Having to keep protesting against items on this site when others have said similar viewpoints to mine, but the site owner keeps trying to sneak in his ideas via the backdoor.
Zeljko Cirovic (2020-01-16 12:36:22)
IECG chess-server.net
STILL NOT START...FICGS__CHESS__KING_SUPERTOURNAMENT__000006
(type : unrated round-robin, time : 30 days, increment : 1 day / move)
Deadline : 2019 september 1st
Thematic chess, first moves : e4 e5 f4
Steven DuCharme (2020-05-14 16:55:03)
CC Server World Championship Tournament
deadline is 12 AM June 1 Wisonsin Time
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