FICGS 2nd Freestyle Cup

  
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Thibault de Vassal    (2008-03-24)
FICGS 2nd Freestyle Cup

The tournament will be played on April 6, 2008.

All questions and feedback are welcome here.


Garvin Gray    (2008-03-28 15:41:07)
4 entries so far.


Well everyone, get your entries in. We have four entries so far.

Two decent players and two rabbits, so to speak.

More entries, the better the tournament.



Thibault de Vassal    (2008-03-30 07:25:30)
Freestyle cup : Rules & start

There was a small conflict in the rules, now corrected : The first game will start at 13:00 server time, not 15:00

Current rules :

FICGS advanced chess "freestyle" cup is a 6 rounds swiss tournament with entry fee and prize, played in a single day. Entry fees are E-Points that you can buy in 'My account'. Read carefully terms and conditions, particularly Entry fees & Prize money sections before to play tournaments with entry fees.

All games are played in 30 minutes + 15 seconds / move. Norms are not possible.

The first round will start at the date and hour (13:00 server time) indicated as "deadline". Next rounds will start at 15:00, 17:00, 19:00, 21:00 and 23:00 server time. Please register carefully as it is not possible to retire from the waiting list. It is strongly recommended to display the chat bar to communicate with the tournament director.

If several players obtain the best score and the best Sonnenborn-Berger, they will share the prize. It is possible to forfeit all next games (that will be unrated for the advanced chess rating list) during the tournament.

FIDE GM & IM, FICGS / ICCF GM, SM & IM are invited to enter the waiting list for free.. Please just send a message to webmaster through My account page to register. You may be asked to send a copy of your passport or ID card. The tournament might be cancelled if less than 7 players registered before the deadline, in this case entry fees will be given back to the players.

An extra fee, usually 30% of the entry fee, will be added to the entry fee 2 days before the start of the tournament.


Garvin Gray    (2008-03-31 10:42:37)
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Four more players needed at least for a decent competition. I do wonder though, how many people on here have enough e-points to play?


Benjamin Block    (2008-04-02 18:08:20)
sponsor?

How is the sponsor of this tournament?


Garvin Gray    (2008-04-03 18:56:17)
hmm

hmm


Thibault de Vassal    (2008-04-04 03:51:57)
sponsor

Looks like we need more time to find a decent sponsor for this tournament :)


Thibault de Vassal    (2008-04-04 03:53:14)
Freestyle registrations

We need at least 3 more players in the waiting list before saturday (april 5) to play this freestyle tournament !


Benjamin Block    (2008-04-04 21:48:58)
sponsor

But how will pay the extra e-points?


Thibault de Vassal    (2008-04-05 02:32:40)
sponsor

What do you mean ?! Dollar $, Euro or something else ? Of course, E-Points can be changed in Euros.


Thibault de Vassal    (2008-04-05 02:43:40)
FICGS 2nd Freestyle Cup

Obviously the tournament won't probably be really interesting before I can sponsorize it and find additionnal sponsors... Ok, I'll make some important changes during the next weeks, this 2nd freestyle won't start this time again, we need more time anyway. Sorry and many thanks to the players who entered the waiting list !


Garvin Gray    (2008-04-05 09:38:33)
cancelled?

I take it the tournament is cancelled?


Thibault de Vassal    (2008-04-05 13:29:31)
cancelled

Hi Garvin. Of course, yes.


Garvin Gray    (2008-04-06 14:02:58)
not a fan


Now that the tournament has been cancelled, I have a couple of comments regarding what was the proposed format of 6 rounds of 30 + 10 in one day.

Players on here previously objected to this type of 'fast' time control as
it gave too much advantage to engine only players over freestylers. This point was also discussed heavily when 45 + 5 was used in a playchess freestyle tournament.

I will not be participating again in a tournament under this time control when for me play starts at 9pm and will finish at about 7am with 6 rounds in one sitting.

I would find it much easier to play one round per day at 90 + 30 over a few days, with play starting at 1300 server time.

While this may seem like a big commitment, I would think that more players can make a few hours commitment each day, than a 12 hour or so commitment on one day. Especially when trying to run a tournament across 24 time zones.



Thibault de Vassal    (2008-04-06 18:06:20)
time control

Once more, you are probably right about time controls.. just tried, but anyway, no formula will fit to everyone :( .. IMO the main points are the site has to improve yet and we need more players, then things should follow. Of course, feel free to make suggestions...

Two points :

- I just wonder if an 'open' waiting list is ok for such a tournament : Maybe players shouldn't be able to see the players who already entered the waiting list (cause of course everyone may wait to see who registered before to register...)

- Following some improvements, bronze games may become free soon. More players could familiarize with short time controls.

What do you think ?


Garvin Gray    (2008-04-07 12:47:43)
freestyle


- I just wonder if an 'open' waiting list is ok for such a tournament : Maybe players shouldn't be able to see the players who already entered the waiting list (cause of course everyone may wait to see who registered before to register...)

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I would not recommend denying access to the waiting list. The reason is two fold:

1) Players will be regularly asking, who is playing and how many entrants so far? If these questions are not answered, then it either looks like there is something to hide or that the tournament is not going well.

2) It will just increase your work load of answering more questions.

- Following some improvements, bronze games may become free soon. More players could familiarize with short time controls.

It might be an idea to try the next freestyle tournament as a free entry tournament with the one game per day/long time control idea.

As for the bronze games being free, a trial period has already been offered and success has been limited. This gave everyone a chance to familiarise themselves with how the timed games operated. I do not think many players took this up.

As for paying for competitions, the payment options must become a lot more simple and obvious.
A simple paypal option would probably be best.
From my otb organisational experience, even offering a bank deposit option is beyond some players. And this is in competitions where the players know the organiser in person.



Thibault de Vassal    (2008-04-12 02:30:13)
freestyle

"It might be an idea to try the next freestyle tournament as a free entry tournament with the one game per day/long time control idea."

It might be... I'll think aout the other points too. Thanks for sharing your views, Garvin. (also there's a paypal option too)









 

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