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moderator (2007-11-20 06:25:27)
How to rank number 1 in Google
The buzz these days is around TNX - http://www.tnx.net/?p=119583153 , supposed to be the new best way to get thousands of 1-way links related to your website !
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=477444
http://www.esvg.org/?p=37
http://xfep.com/advertising/tnxnet-review-new-text-link-broker/
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=488057
A database with millions of web pages, 500,000 pages PR1+ , thousands of webmasters already registered.
So, is this the future No.1 public enemy for Google ?
What do you think ?
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En français :
Discussion postée sur les forums de WebRankInfo :
http://www.webrankinfo.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=805028
Visiblement un gros buzz se fait autour de TNX, http://www.tnx.net/?p=119583153 ... Nouvelle plate forme d'échanges de liens apparemment ULTRA efficace, avec l'idée de simuler un référencement naturel à grande échelle et avec un minimum d'efforts... TLA (Text Links Ads) n'aurait qu'à bien se tenir, d'autant qu'ici on peut vendre, acheter, échanger, bref tout faire avec un seul outil, contrairement par exemple à Adsense/Adwords !?
En bref, leur vision de l'optimisation des liens et les raisons d'utiliser leur outil se résument à ceci :
1. Ne pas vendre, ni acheter des liens sur tout un site (sitewide link), faire des échanges d'une seule page.
2. Ne pas chercher des liens à fort PR uniquement, monter progressivement en puissance selon le PR de votre site.
3. Contrôler la vitesse de construction des liens (et éviter la sandbox, évidemment)
4. Limiter le nombre de liens externe de vos pages (entre 1 et 4), et éviter tout thème douteux (pills, viagra etc...).
5. Promouvoir les pages profondes, utiliser des titres différents etc... la routine...
6. Eviter les échanges de liens réciproques. (sûrement discutable dans une certaine mesure)
En résumé leur argument : les liens de pages individuelles même à faible PageRank sont très bénéfiques pour les SERP, pas forcément pour le PageRank (dont tout le monde se fout désormais semble-t-il)
Leur système semble très bien pensé pour exploiter au maximum la puissance d'un site (c'est clairement là le secret), et très profitable pour tout le monde ! Ils offrent encore 5000 points (soit des milliers de liens PR0 dans la thématique de vos sites) sur le forum Digital Point et tout le monde se jette dessus... Je ne vois pas encore où est "le défaut", sinon le danger de la sandbox qui semble pourtant être pris en compte.
Alors révolution et TNX nouvel ennemi public No 1 pour Google ? .. Ils prétendent que les liens resteront indétectables (notamment après l'attaque en règle contre Text Links Ads)...
Je me demande au passage comment ça marche technologiquement parlant, ça doit bien au moins ralentir la vitesse de chargement des pages (auquel cas Google pourrait ruser)... Je vais peut être essayer juste pour voir à quoi ça ressemble.. Mais évidemment le plus gros risque pourrait être tout simplement qu'ils soient assez rapidement victimes de leur succès... Google pourrait aussi rendre les liens PR0 sans effet, mais les conséquences seront lourdes.
Dernière chose, le nombre de liens vers tnx.net est déjà supérieur à 1000 pour un PR0 .. apparemment leur positionnement sur leurs requêtes clés (genre "text link ads" a sans doute été sabordé), mais certains chiffres semblent ne pas mentir... Je reste sceptique, mais intrigué !
Quid ?
moderator (2007-11-20 15:13:38)
TNX, dependance totale
Bon, après quelques heures de sommeil, j'en suis venu à me dire...
1) Que leur truc est quand même bien foutu, et clairement profitable pour eux (ça n'étonnera personne).. toute l'astuce, également de donner des points, étant de forcer les webmasters à payer ensuite à vie chaque mois pour garder leurs précieux liens.. au prix de TNX.. bon ça restera sans doute peu cher par lien, le cumul fera vite banco pour eux si ça marche, mais c'est une vraie dépendance (voire pire que Google).. si le système craque, c'est la gamelle dans les SERP.
2) Pour le code, je n'ai pas encore vu ce que ça donne en HTML, mais la ruse (je m'en doutais un peu) consiste à aller chercher ni vu ni connu avec un code PHP ou Perl les pubs à insérer à coup de file_get_content() ! .. donc en théorie ça peut vraiment être indétectable....... mais ça va bien ralentir un peu les pages.
Il faut reconnaitre que ça a l'air vraiment intéressant si "bien utilisé"... Google risque de repérer malgré tout les réseaux 3-ways ou 10-ways s'il s'agit d'une stratégie massive de liens.
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moderator (2007-11-14 14:31:57)
Google to invade TV
Google would be in talks with Simon Fuller, the man behind the Spice Girls, about a joint venture that could change the way television is watched over the internet.
Of course Google's plans for the TV market may include generating original content and competing with major broadcasters, why not, just after the launch last year of Google Video, which offers full-length television programmes and films on a pay-per-view basis.
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Google serait en discussions avec Simon Fuller, l'homme caché derrière les Spice Girls, autour d'un rapprochement qui pourrait changer la façon d'acheminer la télévision sur le net.
Bien entendu, les plans de Google pour le marché télévisuel pourraient inclure la production de contenu original ainsi que de concurrencer à terme les grands diffuseurs, pourquoi pas, après le lancement l'an dernier de Google Video, qui offre des programmes télévisés entiers à payer au visionnage.
moderator (2007-11-06 20:06:20)
Google Phone vs. I-Phone
After the quite impressive I-Phone, Google World Company released on Monday an initial set of details about its plans to alter how mobile applications are created and distributed. The aim is to build a "vibrant third-party developer community" for its Android mobile platform.
In the Open Handset Alliance : NTT DoCoMo, Sprint Nextel, Telecom Italia, Samsung, Motorola, LG Electronics, Intel, Nvidia, eBay, and many others...
Soon, the Google Pizza.
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Après l'assez impressionnant I-Phone, la Google World Company a révélé son projet pour révolutionner la création et la distribution des applications pour téléphones portables. Le but est de construire une communauté de développement autour de sa plate-forme Android.
Dans l'Open Handset Alliance : NTT DoCoMo, Sprint Nextel, Telecom Italia, Samsung, Motorola, LG Electronics, Intel, Nvidia, eBay et beaucoup d'autres...
Bientôt, la Google Pizza.
moderator (2007-11-03 20:45:57)
Google China
The shortest url ever ? :)
http://g.cn
Google China just started...
moderator (2007-11-01 20:07:15)
Google PageRank goes after paid links
The last update of famous Google's PageRank seems to go after sponsored links, a common way to obtain optimized backlinks on the internet to change Google rankings. Many famous websites like ie. Youtube saw its PageRank falling by several points, but no change would have occured in rankings, finally Youtube got back its PageRank.
Definitely, Pagerank is a perfect tool for Google to control the world wide web.
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La dernière mise à jour du célèbre PageRank de Google semble aller à l'encontre des liens payés ou sponsorisés, un moyen devenu classique d'obtenir des liens optimisés sur internet pour influencer les résultats des recherches sur Google. De nombreux sites célèbres comme Youtube ou Webrankinfo ont vu leur PageRank chuter de plusieurs points mais apparemment sans avoir affecté leur positionnement dans les pages de recherche. Peu de temps après, Youtube avait récupéré son PageRank.
Google détient décidément l'outil parfait pour contrôler le Web.
megrisoft (2007-10-27 08:28:38)
Google PR Update Oct 2007
The Google PR update has happened and I have found that most of the sites have lost PR.There are very few sites who have been able to retain their old PR.Some new sites have now PR ranging from 1 to 3 but many of the old ones have lost on PR.So guys what do you think about this PR update.
moderator (2007-10-27 02:42:07)
Selling paid links may hurt Pagerank
These news could change many things on the internet, Google now penalizes websites selling most probably dubious (unrelated) links, to avoid manipulations on Pagerank and Google rankings :
http://searchengineland.com/071007-173841.php
aashish (2007-10-12 07:13:08)
PageRank tool in Google toolbar is false
Hi
This will surprise you after knowing that pagerank tool in toolbar shows wrong information and PageRank is updated after 3 months. PageRank tool always show 3 months old updation. Don’t be fool try to get site that tells true PageRank.
Have a Nice Day
Bye
dhananjayan (2007-08-21 12:18:53)
How to increase my page rank
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blackpanther (2007-06-27 07:46:10)
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moderator (2007-06-16 23:37:39)
Google Sitelinks update
2007 june, Google Sitelinks have been updated again... Still not much information about this interesting feature, but this page "How do you compile the list of links shown below some search results" :
http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=47334&topic=8523
qman (2007-06-03 02:21:38)
I don't understand Google anymore! HELP
We try to optimize and increase the position for this page on google search and it looks like is imposible.
The page address is: http://www.shoedeals4u.com/1-born.htm
or go to shoedeals4u dot com and click on born.
The targeted keywords are : born shoes
For the last year we submited this page to many directories, we created articles to include links to this page, we optimized the page for that group of keywords.
The age of the website is 5 years.
The page has a pr 3 with google.
If you will do a search on google for ' born shoes' you will find our page on page 12. I don't understand why.
I would very much appreciate clarity on this as is driving me crazy and I can't find any relevant info anywhere.
Many thanks.
moderator (2007-05-23 12:59:20)
Link popularity and Pagerank checker
http://www.twotails.biz/popularitychecker.html
PopularityChecker is a link popularity checking program that checks URL's for Google Pagerank, Dmoz listing, Alexa Traffic Rank and the number of backlinks from other websites.
moderator (2007-04-29 14:44:07)
Pagerank and backlinks update
2007 april 27, some changes on Google datacenters, obviously a new Pagerank and backlinks update ! .. FICGS directory would get Pagerank 5
Check Pagerank on Google datacenters :
http://oy-oy.eu
moderator (2007-04-21 11:43:09)
Google made 1 billion dollars / 3 months
Google made 1 billion dollars during 2007 first three months ! .. 69% more than year before.
Adsense made 37% of these results.
moderator (2007-04-20 02:09:57)
Google Product Search
Froogle has been renamed : Google Product Search...
Will it help to launch this quite unknown Google service !?
moderator (2007-02-17 12:00:21)
Google bug
Did someone notice a bug with the Google's command site: ?
Seems it returns 260 for several webmasters (I too) instead of the normal number of pages.. here 30,000 ?!
moderator (2007-01-29 13:32:10)
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moderator (2007-01-10 12:18:29)
Google Dance 2007
Next Google Dance (first 2007 Google Dance) just started on 2007 january 9 !
Still no major changes, many reported new sites having a PR 0 -> 4 on eight datacenters... FICGS has got 376 -> 666 backlinks on one datacenter.
moderator (2007-01-05 11:51:00)
Googlearchy
How is traffic related to popularity and inbound links ?
Interesting question, I just discovered this new term : Googlearchy
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