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Polina Stefanova    (2007-08-02)
Threatened to kill the person

...in Moskow.

Unfortunately I inform, that --- [moderator : name deleted] from Ukraine promised to employ killers and to kill in Moscow the strongest chess player Igame - Sex God (2 place in rating Igame).

Sex God should play for command Igame against ficgs on the third board.

Sex God was against participation --- [moderator : name deleted] in match Igame ficgs, because he supports addicts and played for a command which captain is the sick person and addict R2.

In Russia against a narcotism, including this illness a harm, however the command headed by addict R2, exists on Igame till now :(

As a result captain Igame, being afraid for a life and health Sex God has been compelled to exclude Sex God from a command.

Best wishes, Polina Stefanova (the leader of rating Igame)


Iouri Basiliev    (2007-08-02 21:17:43)
Re:

What are you smoking Polina? Can i try the same?


Rodolfo d Ettorre    (2007-08-03 04:47:00)
re.

Polina, are you the sister of Antoneta?


Iouri Basiliev    (2007-08-03 09:14:43)
re

No, she is sister of God, Sex_God :)


Rodolfo d Ettorre    (2007-08-03 09:24:14)
re

I think I saw the light, in Polina's text, remove "command" and put "team" instead and everything will be clear as water. But I do not think that narcisism is so bad.


Dinesh De Silva    (2007-08-03 09:39:16)
Re:

I couldn't make any sense out of what this particular thread is about. It sounds like "R2 D2 Computer Speaking". A space fight?!? Some "command" problems in Moscow?!? Some killers & narcotic addicts attacking some game & a god wannabe??!


Victor Dolganiuc    (2007-08-03 09:41:46)
Viteoc

It's all true that she said!


Dinesh De Silva    (2007-08-03 09:51:36)
Re:

Really? So a serious situation has arisen then? A matter for the police in Moscow to investigate probably.


Adkham Yunusov    (2007-08-03 10:27:05)
-

Why the police in Moscow only? Interpol!


Iouri Basiliev    (2007-08-03 12:30:25)
re

Just to stop the flux of stupidity. There is a notion - "Team Spirit". And if someone, even great player, isn't correspond to this notion - he is pist off. Sorry. Point.


Ivan Pljusnin    (2007-08-03 14:06:28)
My offer

I offer to play some interesting chess matches between strong igame player Sex_God and his enemies.

1. Sex_God - --- [moderator : name deleted], his would-be killer.

2. Sex_God - Sergey Pligin, who did not let him play in the igame team because of the conflict with --- [moderator : name deleted].

3. It is also interesting to see the match Sex_God - some strong player from ficgs. If Sex_God had stayed in the igame team, this match would have already started.

Best wishes, Mobutu (on igame) aka Ivan Pljusnin (here)


Rodolfo d Ettorre    (2007-08-03 14:59:54)
re

It would be nice if everything could be solved with a game of chess, disputes, wars , etc


Thibault de Vassal    (2007-08-03 17:18:42)
Before to be moderated...

Hello Polina... (Stefanova, Romanova or whoever) Could you explain what this topic is about exactly ? :) .. It seems this is an Igame team issue, so this is probably not the correct place to discuss it.


Ivan Pljusnin    (2007-08-03 21:35:57)
:-)

Thibault, but you are agree that murders of strong correspondence chessplayers bring some excitement into their boring life, aren't you? :-)


Thibault de Vassal    (2007-08-04 01:14:58)
Everyone

... need a hobbie :)


Charlie Neil    (2007-08-04 13:20:22)
Re:

Wow!


Thibault de Vassal    (2007-08-04 15:27:03)
Re:

I don't play "World Of Warcraft" :)


Polina Stefanova    (2007-08-07 12:15:08)
Re

The situation very serious also concerns not only commands Igame.

(...)

[moderator : this is definitely not the place to discuss it]


Sergei Ivanov    (2007-08-08 10:23:10)
curator

It is very sad, that a known chess player threatens to kill the person. The application for murder needs to be transferred in court, it is impossible to disregard such things.


Rodolfo d Ettorre    (2007-08-08 15:45:00)
Re

Most of us are very far from Russia, so there is nothing we can do about it. If the threat has been made in public, the local police should be able to act. So, really I think discussing this here is useless, it just gives material for silly jokes.


Rodolfo d Ettorre    (2007-08-08 15:55:11)
Re

Just curiosity, how many IM and GM are killed every year?


Adkham Yunusov    (2007-08-08 16:52:45)
-

You didn't understand. Some paranoiacs are killed every year by IM or GM


Sergei Ivanov    (2007-08-08 17:07:33)
curator

--- [moderator : name deleted] is the addict and accepted heroin, therefore for Dmitry is very disturbing.


---    (2007-08-08 22:07:24)
Polina

Polina, did you hide from insane asylum?


Artur Saigakov    (2007-08-08 23:13:50)
Re

Hello! Please, calm down! I am a command captain on the site of igame.ru of which --- [moderator : name deleted] consisted before. I'm sorry my English is terrible! Paulina and Sex-god (SG) are one person which thus make his own PR and shows the personal offense to --- [moderator : name deleted]. --- [moderator : name deleted] anyway is not connected with drugs, he simply played in my command. I want to underline that my command is AGAINST drugs! Name of command - STOP Narkotics! Motto of our command you can read on igame.ru : "" If you found forces, or search it to give up drugs, this command is for you! This command exists for everybody who gives the vote for nature, for peace, for understanding of our existence, for light ideas, for helping each other, for healthy children and their parents!"" --- [moderator : name deleted] never was drug addict but he just agreed with a command idea. He is 17 years old, he is IM, that's why he was taken in command of igame, and SG wasn't included. SG said that he is gay, then added to the repertoire a word is a drug addict. certainly, he was offended and he said that he would beat SG or he would ask somebody to do it It is not serious, but I think that this fight wouldn't stop even after this speech.


Ivan Pljusnin    (2007-08-09 01:49:06)
Igame ratings

In order to make this topic more exiting I give the igame ratings of the opponents:

Sex_God: 2463 (+111, =63, -3)
RODINKA (aka ---): 2369 (+69, =29, -3)

Polina is our rating-leader (2536; +173, =1, -1), but most of igame players consider her rating unfair because she have played many games with weak opponents. Some people also say that she is another nickname of Sex_God but I don't believe it.

There was a conflict between Sex_God and RODINKA (aka ---). They have abused each other, and our cap decided to expel Sex_God from the team in spite of his higher rating. Unfortunately, this strong igame chessplayer does not take part in our great match.


Rodolfo d Ettorre    (2007-08-09 04:45:15)
Re

Nature, peace, love and understaning? Why not sex, rock and marijuana? This whole thread looks like a storm in a glass of water or gossip in a little village.


Sergei Ivanov    (2007-08-09 11:44:34)
Re

Polina the truth speaks.
Ukrainian chess player --- [moderator : name deleted] threatens to kill Dmitry and even now writes letters that Dmitry will soon kill. Here one of letters which was sent by --- [moderator : name deleted]
" I already has employed killers, they will kill you "
Also it is known that --- [moderator : name deleted] not only accepts drugs (heroin, кокоин, marihuana ), but also sells drugs.


Alexander Minkin    (2007-08-09 15:21:30)
Re

Rebuyta, pora zakanchivat' s beleberdoj. Ochen' plohoi perevod na Anglisskij tol'ko zaputivaet teh kto pitaetsuy ponut' v chem delo ,i razborie nado vesti v Moscve na Igame forume a ne zdes'. Nadeus' cho vse uladitsyu.


Rodolfo d Ettorre    (2007-08-09 16:33:38)
Re

I van see IGame is a big happy family ...


Sergei Ivanov    (2007-08-09 17:12:10)
Alexander Minkin

S kem razbiratsja-to? Kapitan Igame sidit v kakoj-to derevne, byl by on v Moskve emu davno by rylo nachistili, za to chto on vzjal k sebe v komandu prestupnika. Narkoman --- [moderator : name deleted] vo Lvove, no kogda on pojavitsja v Moskve ego ozhidaet teplyj priem!


Ivan Pljusnin    (2007-08-09 18:58:05)
2 Rodolfo d Ettorre

"I van see IGame is a big happy family ..."

The forum of igame is very popular. Some topics there contain several thousands responses and more than 100000 views. Sometimes murders of igame chessplayers are discussed, it usually makes a topic very popular. Unfortunately, some moderators do not like that, and most interesting authors are banned. :-(


Ilmars Cirulis    (2007-08-10 00:09:13)
?!

Kakije u vas dokazateljstva tomu, cjto --- [moderator : name deleted] - prestupnjik? Poka cjto vsjo eto vigljadjit kak polnaja cjusj.


Artur Saigakov    (2007-08-10 07:54:07)
Re

Eto i est polnaia 4uw. Dokazatelstv nikakix - krome virezok iz foruma i po4ti. --- [moderator : name deleted] slu4aino natknulsa (possorilsa) na gruppu ludei v internete, kotorie svoe delo znaiut: 1/ Oni umelo podtasovivaiut fakti 2/ Zadevaiut 4eloveka za zgivoe 3/ S celiu vigodi na4inaiut luboi konflict 4/ Megdu soboi obwaiutsa na otdelnom skritom forume 5/ Vsia4eskii podrivaiut reputaciy IGAME iz za togo 4to im ne nravitsa administracia igame i mnogie igroki igame. 6/ Oni zanimaiutsa priamim vreditelstvom na igame. Zabivaiut pustimi soobweniami forum. Zavodiat mnogo nikov i tormaziat turtiri. Zavodiat temi na forume 4to-bi posorit ludei. Izdevaiutsa nad slabimi waxmatistami i MNOGOE drugoe. 7/ Sami oni narkomani i alkogoliki i NE imeiut waxmatnix zvanii FIDE - igraiut tolko v advancechess. No nesmotria na etu malo4islennuiu gruppu zlonravnix ludei - IGAME.RU zame4atelnii sait s UIMOI zame4atelnix ludei. Za plusami igame mogno zaprosto ne zametit minusov, a negativnaia reklama - toge REKLAMA.


Artur Saigakov    (2007-08-10 07:58:10)
Re

Eto i est polnaia 4uw. Dokazatelstv nikakix - krome virezok iz foruma i po4ti. --- [moderator : name deleted] slu4aino natknulsa (possorilsa) na gruppu ludei v internete, kotorie svoe delo znaiut: 1/ Oni umelo podtasovivaiut fakti 2/ Zadevaiut 4eloveka za zgivoe 3/ S celiu vigodi na4inaiut luboi konflict 4/ Megdu soboi obwaiutsa na otdelnom skritom forume 5/ Vsia4eskii podrivaiut reputaciy IGAME iz za togo 4to im ne nravitsa administracia igame i mnogie igroki igame. 6/ Oni zanimaiutsa priamim vreditelstvom na igame. Zabivaiut pustimi soobweniami forum. Zavodiat mnogo nikov i tormaziat turtiri. Zavodiat temi na forume 4to-bi posorit ludei. Izdevaiutsa nad slabimi waxmatistami i MNOGOE drugoe. 7/ Sami oni narkomani i alkogoliki i NE imeiut waxmatnix zvanii FIDE - igraiut tolko v advancechess.


Artur Saigakov    (2007-08-10 07:58:31)
Re

No nesmotria na etu malo4islennuiu gruppu zlonravnix ludei - IGAME.RU zame4atelnii sait s UIMOI zame4atelnix ludei. Za plusami igame mogno zaprosto ne zametit minusov, a negativnaia reklama - toge REKLAMA.


Artur Saigakov    (2007-08-10 08:25:15)
re

The players of FICGS correctly react on a situation and not added on provocation. Prosecutions toward --- [moderator : name deleted] look funny and child.


Sergei Ivanov    (2007-08-10 10:46:17)
Ilmars

That it will kill --- [moderator : name deleted]'s message of Dmitry, has been placed at a forum:
http: // igt.forum24.ru
It is a forum of command Igame, he closed.
The given message was seen all command Igame.
After the message on murder - captain Igame, has requested acknowledgement of the person who promised to kill Dmitry, that the given message was written by --- [moderator : name deleted] and has received the certificate of master FIDE IM --- [moderator : name deleted].
So there are no doubts, that chess player --- [moderator : name deleted] threatened to kill Dmitry.


Sergei Ivanov    (2007-08-10 10:49:31)
Translit

Soobwenie --- [moderator : name deleted] chto on ub'et Dmitrija, bylo razmeweno na forume:
http://igt.forum24.ru
JEto forum komandy Igejm, on zakrytyj.
Dannoe soobwenie videla vsja komanda Igame.
Posle soobwenija ob ubijstve - kapitan Igame, zaprosil u cheloveka, kotoryj obewal ubit' Dmitrija, podtverzhdenie, chto dannoe soobwenie napisal imenno --- [moderator : name deleted] i poluchil svidetel'stvo mastera FIDE na imja --- [moderator : name deleted].
Tak chto net nikakih somnenij, chto l'vovskij shahmatist --- [moderator : name deleted] ugrozhal ubit' Dmitrija.


Rodolfo d Ettorre    (2007-08-10 13:50:37)
re

In the future there will be three kind of nations: territorial nations like the ones we have now, corporative nations, like big firms , microsoft for example, and cyber nations with FICGS and IGAME being two of them. So, FICGS could offer refugee status to Sexy God and try to extradite --- [moderator : name deleted]...


Ivan Pljusnin    (2007-08-10 14:29:54)
IGAME and FICGS are cyber-nations?

It sounds very promising. I guess, the most respectable citizens are Fritz, Shredder, Rybka and some other engines who have dual citizenship. :-)

If FICGS intends to extradite --- [moderator : name deleted] please do it after he finishes his match games. :-)


Ilmars Cirulis    (2007-08-10 15:06:49)
?

Ja nje nasjol njiodnovo igroka v IGAME c (2536; +173, =1, -1)... ?!
Pomogitje pozjalsta!

I can't find any player with (2536; +173, =1, -1) in IGAME... ?!
Please help!


Ivan Pljusnin    (2007-08-10 16:21:13)
IGAME ratings

Polina is not published in IGAME rating-list because she has finished her last game more than three months ago. Here is her last game:
http://www.igame.ru/chess/gm.htm?gid=350240

Full IGAME rating-list looks as follows:

1. Polina (2536)
2. curator (2513)
3. GipsyFlame (2495, plays as Sergey Pligin)
4. Mobutu (2476, = Pljusnin Ivan)
5. Many (2475)
6. Sex_God (2463)
7. abc0123 (2461)
8. owl (2461, plays as Dojnikov)
9. klio (2457)
10. Vovanchiki (2455, plays as Kim Vladimir)
...

I do not think that IGAME ratings show real chess strength. For example, Polina and Many haven't played any games with serious opponents. curator, abc0123 and some other players have high ratings because they have finished many hundreds games. And some really strong players have comparatively low ratings. For example, our first board in the team, Vladimir_Lenin (=GM Andrey Sumets) has IGAME rating 2403, #35 in the full rating-list.


Thibault de Vassal    (2007-08-10 19:32:03)
Lots of fun...

Hello to all.

It seems this thread is still quite active.. but as everyone understood, there is no need to add to the provocation ;) .. If IM --- [moderator : name deleted] wants some accusations to be deleted, he can just ask me...


Reminder : Don't forget that the law also applies on the internet.

Reminder : Please speak english only on this forum.


---    (2007-08-10 22:34:03)
to Thibault de Vassal

Hello, Thibault. 1) Thibault, I am a professional chess-player. I do not have a necessity to put to death anybody! :-) You can talk with a captain is Sergey Pligin – he will confirm. You can talk with the administrator of site http://igame.ru/ – Dmitriy Matrosov – he will confirm. You can talk with the representatives of Chess Federation of Ukraine – they will confirm also! I only want to play a chess - on Your beautiful site! Do not I know, who such Sergei Ivanov!??? Do not I know, who such Polina Stefanova (or Romanova)!??? It is obvious impostors which have the fictitious names. I only want to notarize these people, that I am a chess-player, in place of killer! --- [moderator : name deleted] gets victories in chess games, and does not kill people! :-) 2) Do not I understand also, what these people want от the site of http://www.ficgs.com/? Did they create this theme, to slander me? It seemed to me the page of humour at the beginning. But I see that it tired me already. I ask you to take measures! thanks a lot


Vitalii Bocharov    (2007-08-10 22:34:42)
+

I have been afflicted, when have seen --- [moderator : name deleted]'s message at a forum: http://igt.forum24.ru in which IM --- [moderator : name deleted] publicly, promised to kill Dmitry. In this case it is necessary to address in court, I the lawyer. Similar cases already were, when a mad star, sentenced to the large penalty and socially useful works - the life of people is more dear than ranks and ratings.


Vitalii Bocharov    (2007-08-10 22:56:36)
=

Captain Igame Sergey Pligin will confirm that IM --- [moderator : name deleted] wishes to kill Dmitry.


Thibault de Vassal    (2007-08-11 04:43:43)
Warning : forum rules !

Hello to all.

It is time for this thread to end, so...

Reminder : No player may post in forums or send to another member any voluntary message that contains abusive, insulting, provocating, advertising, vulgar, foul, racist, sexist or other discriminatory or politically sensitive content that may violate any applicable laws. Doing so may lead to being immediately and permanently banned. You agree that the webmaster, administrator and moderators have the right to remove, edit, move or close any topic, comment or message at any time should they see fit.


In other words I'll apply the rules letter by letter from now :


ANYONE WHO WILL POST SUCH ACCUSATIONS AGAIN WILL BE BANNED FROM THE SITE.


PS : The name has been deleted in the whole discussion.

Best wishes, Thibault


Andrew Stephenson    (2007-08-11 23:40:27)
IGame ratings

Just curious but is the player curator listed as no 2 in IGAME ratings (2513) the same player curator on chess-mail.com rated at no 3 (2530)? On chess mail curator plays under an israeli flag.


Ivan Pljusnin    (2007-08-12 03:39:21)
2 Andrew Stephenson

I think, curator on IGAME and curator on chess-mail is the same person. Here is his IGAME info:
country - israel
city - natania
bitth date - 13.03.1963

As far as I know, he was invited in IGAME team but refused to play. However, I am not sure that he is stronger than some of our team players. For example, look at this:
http://www.igame.ru/chess/gm.htm?gid=219934
or at this:
http://www.igame.ru/chess/gm.htm?gid=195761
GipsyFlame (=Pligin) and Red (aka Orlov) play in the IGAME team.


Vitalii Bocharov    (2007-08-12 23:36:38)
=

Here it was a question not that --- [moderator : name deleted] HAS ALREADY killed the person, and of that that, WISHES TO kill the person and it saw many witnesses. These are two absolutely different things and from legal point of view Thibault de Vassal it is not right.


Thibault de Vassal    (2007-08-13 05:40:04)
Hello Vitalii...

More accurately :

1) Posting private messages from anyone violates applicable laws.
2) Slander violates applicable laws.

These two were included in the discussion / accusations, whatever the facts about these threatens...


More accurately :

I'll apply the rules letter by letter from now...

... furthermore (not consequently) :

ANYONE WHO WILL POST SUCH ACCUSATIONS AGAIN WILL BE BANNED FROM THE SITE, cause this is definitely not the place for it.


Best wishes, Thibault


Sergei Ivanov    (2007-08-13 11:57:51)
Thibault de Vassal

1) "Posting private messages from anyone violates applicable laws."
It was PUBLIC MESSAGE, the message --- [moderator : name deleted] planned murder Dmitry's , saw many people, it has been laid out at forum IM of [moderator : name deleted].

2) "Slander violates applicable laws."
It NOT SLANDER - this TRUTH and it has already confirmed 4 persons.


Thibault de Vassal    (2007-08-13 14:03:37)
Sergei Ivanov

1) I didn't say the contrary about this particular point, actually I don't know anything about it... but some private messages were posted (and of course deleted) during the discussion.

2) I didn't say the contrary about this particular point, actually I don't know anything about it... but there were some slander about drugs, weapons or mafia... no proofs, finally this is definitely the place for such accusations.


WARNING :

Writing the name of the accused player in this thread is a way to accuse him again, it will lead to be suspended during a while.


Sergei Ivanov    (2007-09-13 09:49:38)
!!!

On Russian Internet it is a lot of information - [moderator : name deleted]


Sergei Ivanov    (2007-09-13 09:52:37)
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