Thematic with lowest chances of draw

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Thibault de Vassal    (2017-01-20)
Thematic with lowest chances of draw

Poll! :)

According to you, what are the most interesting chess thematics that are the less drawish (with the lowest chances of draw)...

Of course, this is in the idea of a possible future championship that would keep the historical part of chess & chess openings (chess 960 is another game IMO). But this is only an option for now.

As for me, I'll start with King's gambit, that is not only chess, but (IMHO) the most romantic & beautiful part of chess...

Your opinion?

Jan Ohlin    (2017-01-20 19:46:00)
Thematic with lowest chances of draw

Benoni without 7.f4, Kingsindian (especially variations where both players attacking on different wings (computers are not so good at calculating when all pieces are behind pawns), Spanish with d5 closing center. 1.Nf3 d5 2.c4 d4 3.b4 and 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.c4 c6 4.Nc3 e6 5.g3

Roger Llull    (2017-01-21 06:23:47)
Thematic with lowest chances of draw

This Russian line:
1.e4 e5 2.Bc4 Nf6 3.Nf3 Nxe4 4.Nc3 Nxc3 5.dxc3 f6 6.Nh4 g6 7.f4 Qe7 8.f5 c6
It's incredibly sharp. I'd tell my experience with it, and what makes it so unique, but I don't wanna give hints on how to play it, in case it's selected. Suffice it to say that engines do get it wrong.

Jan Ohlin    (2017-01-21 07:41:13)
Thematic with lowest chances of draw

Gaw Paw-variation 1.e4 c5 2.Sf3 e6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Sxd4 Sf6 5.Sc3 Db6.
1.e4 g6 2.d4 Nf6 3.e5 Nh5,_North_Sea_Variation

Scott Nichols    (2017-01-21 14:55:01)
Thematic with lowest chances of draw

King's Gambit gets my vote, :)

Ilmars Cirulis    (2017-01-21 14:55:42)
Thematic with lowest chances of draw

+1 for King Gambit
(it's time to analyze it to the end :P)

Guillermo Munoz Portugal    (2017-01-21 23:01:56)
Thematic with lowest chances of draw

King´s Indian, The Russian Line of above, King Gambit. King Gambit gets my vote.

Herbert Kruse    (2017-01-22 18:18:32)
Thematic with lowest chances of draw

Czech Benoni is long and not drawish
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5 3.d5 e5 4.Nc3 d6 5.e4

Thibault de Vassal    (2017-01-22 18:46:13)
Thematic with lowest chances of draw

This Benoni is probably an interesting choice. After all, maybe we can change from time to time... Maybe even that the thematic should remain a secret before the tournament starts ^^ But it may be less "prestigious" than King's gambit.

Pablo Schmid    (2017-01-22 20:29:46)
Thematic with lowest chances of draw

King's gambit accepted. Probably most of White's gambit too, Schara-Hennig gambit as Black.

Scott Nichols    (2017-01-23 17:11:33)
Thematic with lowest chances of draw

Kruse's line also good for me...

Pablo Schmid    (2017-02-04 12:48:35)
Thematic with lowest chances of draw

The Frankenstein-Dracula Variation in the Vienna game :)

Peter W. Anderson    (2017-04-19 08:46:20)
Thematic with lowest chances of draw

One possibility would be to take a selection of openings from the last TCEC final. These were deliberately unbalanced to reduce the drawing chances. They were a superb set of openings. To make it fair people would have to play both sides of an opening.

I could also provide you with some hard to hold positions from the modern defence (I won't be playing, so there will no unfair advantage).

Re the previous suggestions:
- benoni with early Bf4 is a good choice
- czech benoni is definitely overscored by engines but will be a tough hold nonethless; I would watch these games with interest
- Hennig Schara is great fun and I have never lost with it on FICGS, but it really is awful if white plays the best line (but I am not going to say what that is!).
- KID would depend on which line was chosen; some lines have been analysed almost to death, others have plenty of scope left.

One other possibility - a Breyer Lopez. Quite a tough hold IMO and therefore a good choice if everyone plays both sides.

Ilmars Cirulis    (2017-04-23 13:52:47)
Thematic with lowest chances of draw

What about 1.g4? (At the moment I believe that white loses.)

Pablo Schmid    (2017-04-23 14:10:27)
Thematic with lowest chances of draw

1.g4 is ugly and not theoretically important. An interesting but quite rare in practice but important theoretically would be preferable in my opinion.

Ilmars Cirulis    (2017-04-23 14:19:14)
Thematic with lowest chances of draw

The Frankenstein-Dracula, then. :)

Pablo Schmid    (2017-04-23 14:27:11)
Thematic with lowest chances of draw

Yes I have proposed it in the forum as one of the interesting line!

Thibault de Vassal    (2017-04-23 15:11:50)
Thematic with lowest chances of draw

Pablo said it all...

Thanks for these advices Peter! To be more accurate, we may discuss the full lines added to the opening names from now... One move can change everything :)

I'm particularly interested in important King's gambit lines for this first edition. The maddest, shortest, non-linear line from engines point of view but still theorical may be the best :-) (yes, not so easy to find) Maybe one with the queen to be trapped, that produced numerous incredible games...





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