Thematic Blackmar


Thematic Blackmar

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Marc Lacrosse    (2006-08-22)
Thematic Blackmar

Hi Thibault

I think you should go one move further for the Blackmar thematic tourney (2..dxe4).
In the present definition you will get loads of French and Caro-Kann defences through 2..e6 or 2..c6 !



Dinesh De Silva    (2006-08-22 12:32:21)
Re: Thematic Blackmar......

Hey, Marc & Thibault! Look at this: 1. d4 d5 2. e4 dxe4 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nxe4 Bf5/Nd7/Nf6 (It's still a Caro-Kahn!). OR 1. d4 d5 2. e4 dxe4 3. Nc3 e6 4. Nxe4 Nf6/Nd7 (It's still a French Defence!). Haha!

Pablo Schmid    (2006-08-22 14:33:13)

Maybe he should have put the starting position of the true BDG via : 1.d4 d5 2.e4 dxe4 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.f3, but there are differents move orders, and Black are not forced to play 3.Nf6 in that move order. But if 3..e6 or 3..c6, it could transpose into a French or Caro, but White could still play in a BDG style : 1.d4 d5 2.e4 dxe4 3.Nc3 c6 4.Bc4!? followed by a f3, or 4.f3!?; and 3..e6 4.f3!? (Nxe4 is already a well-known position of the French).

Thibault de Vassal    (2006-08-22 14:36:59)
Re: Thematic Blackmar......

Hi Marc & Dinesh... You're right. Anyway it's too late, already 5 (!) players in the waiting list. So we'll see...

Thibault de Vassal    (2006-08-22 16:48:47)
Thematic Blackmar : 1 day !

Obviously, you were interested in playing Blackmar thematic tournament. The waiting list has been completed in only 1 day :)

I'll try to find more openings like this one...

Benjamin Aldag    (2006-08-22 17:48:09)
I prefer the following Gambit

Ok, here my idea, for one of the following thematic tourneys.

The Goering Gambit:

1.e4 e5
2.Nf3 Nc6
3.d4 exd4
4.c3 dxc3

This Gambit is full of great tactical play.


Benjamin Aldag    (2006-08-22 17:56:16)

Second move of black must be Nc6 !!!!



(moderator : corrected)

Dinesh De Silva    (2006-08-22 18:29:41)

Yes, the Goering ain't boring. (hey, it rhymes!). It's a very exciting gambit!!.... probably only second to the King's Gambit.

Benjamin Aldag    (2006-08-22 18:56:37)
Kings Gambit is disproved !


the Kings Gambit is since a few years disproved and not playable. The Goering Gambit isn't disproved and still a good Gambit.


Pablo Schmid    (2006-08-22 19:47:43)
another ideas

The latvian gambit (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f5), The elephant gambit (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d5) The Cochrane gambit (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nxf7) The Frankenstein-Dracula variation of the Vienna defense :) Etc.

Thibault de Vassal    (2006-08-22 19:52:28)
Thematic tournaments & King's gambit

Danish gambit and scotch gambit have been played already. (not far)


I'll keep the idea...

Where did you see that king's gambit is not playable ??? Disproved doesn't mean anything IMO... (& this is probably the most known chess 'troll' :))

Benjamin Aldag    (2006-08-22 20:12:07)


i got my knowledge by GM Roman Dzindzihasvili's Video-Tapes, some studys and a lot of played games of Kings Gambit. Latvian isn't good too. I think, with a good computer and a good knowledge about kings gambit, the minimum what black can reach is a draw. If white play latvian, black will win ever. Latvian Gambit is so easy to calculate with a computer. Black has from the beginning on, no move-options.

But we can try both desasters in a thematic-tourney.


Benjamin Aldag    (2006-08-22 20:15:34)
^^^^^^^^Once again...

Black play the Latvian. And whit will win ever in each variation. Thats my opinion. Benny

Thibault de Vassal    (2006-08-22 21:34:28)
Latvian gambit & King's gambit

Benjamin, do we try to analyze some lines in Wikichess ? I create the Latvian line...

Benjamin Aldag    (2006-08-22 21:47:54)
Thats the way i like !

Yes....thats the way ! Letz do it ;-) Benny

Thibault de Vassal    (2006-08-24 18:47:42)
Latvian gambit

Waiting for your move in the Latvian gambit line, Benjamin ;)

Your line is very interesting... It's not easy for black after a long forced sequence, but it's still playable over the board in my opinion...

Benjamin Aldag    (2006-08-24 20:01:31)
we will see....

Sorry for my slow commentating-speed, but i have over 60 corr-games here at the same time and must analyse. Tonight (german-time) i will commentate the rest of your moves. Maybe i think wrong, but i still do not believe in the Latvian-Gambit. There is no good line for black in this Gambit. Just a few traps. Chess is not a game of hoping for a stupid opponent. Chess is a game of good moves by black and white and i would never play a line, by hoping for a bad move of my opponent. Maybe in Blitz or Bullet.....but never in Corr-Games.