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Daniel Parmet    (2010-01-26)
SuperGMs watch Corr?!

Carlsen mentioned to the media after his game with Shirov that the improvement in the game of 22... Bc3 was taken from a Correspondence game he found. (Carlsen's own old novelty was 22... Be5 where he lost to Shirov). This is at least the third time i've heard Carlsen using correspondence games for his own opening research and I know also Peter Leko does this. How many supergms you think are accessing all the correspondence sites around the world looking at our opening ideas?! Cute thought!

Thibault de Vassal    (2010-01-26 10:52:41)
SuperGMs watch Corr?!

It would be funny to find the game Carlsen mentioned on Correspondence Chess databases (or even here?!). What are the previous moves?

Daniel Parmet    (2010-01-26 20:50:07)
SuperGMs watch Corr?!

Here is the Shirov-Carlsen game 1/2-1/2 from Corus where Carlsen mentions the improvement of 22... Bc3 came from Corr

Here is the Shirov-Carlsen game 1-0 where it was Carlsen's Novelty 22... Be5

Someone find the Corr game he refers to?

Thibault de Vassal    (2010-01-27 08:19:11)

I do not have a correspondence chess database recent enough, all I can say is that it does not come from FICGS, too bad :)

Thibault de Vassal    (2010-01-27 08:21:05)

Here is the game by the way...

Vjacheslav Perevozchikov    (2010-01-31 03:50:01)
SuperGMs watch Corr?!

1) Ruppel,Frank (2144) - Zwicker,Thomas (2186) [B33]
GER-ch36 V7 email GER email, 29.03.2004, 0-1

2) Vidalina,Franjo (2252) - Kabachev,Andrey (2184)
WC-2006-F-00005 LSS, 12.09.2007, 0-1

3) Klatt,Otto (2470) - Pivinsky,Evgeny Grigorievich (2457) [B33]
Baltic Sea tt8 ICCF webserver, 01.03.2008, 1/2

IMO Magnus meant the game #2 ;)

Lazaro Munoz    (2010-01-31 11:54:48)
SuperGMs watch Corr?!

The Vidalina-Kabachev games goes:

[Event "WC-2006-F-00005"]
[Site "LSS"]
[Date "2007.9.12"]
[Round ""]
[White "Vidalina, Franjo"]
[Black "Kabachev, Andrey"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Eco ""]
[Annotator ""]
[Source ""]

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 e5 6.Ndb5 d6 7.Bg5 a6 8.Na3 b5 9.Bxf6 gxf6 10.Nd5 Bg7 11.Bd3 Ne7 12.Nxe7 Qxe7 13.c4 f5 14.O-O O-O 15.Qh5 Rb8 16.exf5 e4 17.Rae1 Bb7 18.Qg4 Rfe8 19.cxb5 d5 20.bxa6 Bc6 21.b3 Kh8 22.Nc2 Bc3 23.Be2 Qf6 24.Rd1 Rg8 25.Qf4 d4 26.Bc4 d3 27.Ne1 Be5 28.Qe3 Rg5 29.g3 Rxf5 30.Ng2 Rg8 31.Rc1 Bd4 32.Qd2 Rf3 33.Rce1 Rgxg3 0-1

Interestingly Shirov played 23. Qh3 in his game. Rybka thought the move absolutely sucked and would have responded with the material grab: 23...Bxe1 24. Rxe1 Qc5 25. Bf1 Qxc2 giving it +0.11. It thought that white was much better before 23. Qh3 with the simple 23. Be2 (as was played by Vidalina).

Vidalina may have resigned prematurely since after 34. hxg3 Rxg3 35. Re3, Black is better and has some attacking chances there does not seem to be knock-out move.