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Thibault de Vassal    (2022-03-02)
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Dear chessfriends, I think that FICGS should walk the way followed by several federations (tennis, soccer...). The russian flag does not represent russian players anymore. Of course, russian people has nothing to do with the sad events in Ukraine.


Garvin Gray    (2022-03-02 08:18:43)
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The situation between ficgs and National sports is very different.

With National Sports, they receive funding and are playing under the name Russia. Therefore, when that team wins, the Russian Government receives a benefit.

On here, whilst players are from Russia, we are all playing as individuals.

And as been clearly noted in a lot of news articles, most Russian people do not support the actions of the Russian Government.

I think this is case in ficgs where if a Russian player wanted to change their flag to a neutral flag, they should be given that opportunity, but it should not be forced on them.


Thibault de Vassal    (2022-03-02 19:50:53)
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I understand your point but it seems to be more complicated... At tennis, in example, Elina Svitolina (UKR) didn't want to play Anastasia Potapova (RUS) yesterday, but federation of tennis "removed" russian flag for individual players... the match finally happened (Svitolina won 6-2 6-1 by the way). All russians I know do not support this war, so I think it is a good sign of support from them to join this idea, kind of support for peace.

If any russian player is pro-Poutine or supports this war, of course he can talk to me and ask for his flag (not meaning he'll get it).


A. T. S. Broekhuizen    (2024-08-17 09:37:33)
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Will other counties' flags also be suspended? I could think of a few other countries that are committing war crimes.


A. T. S. Broekhuizen    (2024-08-17 10:18:34)
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I mean, if the west only calls out Russia, then Russia can successfully claim that the west is hypocritical.


Vjacheslav Perevozchikov    (2024-08-29 20:44:24)
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By the way, please replace my flag with the Russian flag or whatever you put in place of it? I am no longer a Ukrainian, but a Russian - and I am proud of it!


Thibault de Vassal    (2024-08-31 13:38:04)
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@Vjacheslav: sure, done.

@A.T.S.: I agree that other countries flags could be suspended sometime... we'll see.


George Jempty    (2025-10-08 01:13:49)
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Like the Israeli plan? That country is commiting genocide.


Thibault de Vassal    (2025-10-08 15:24:10)
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I agree, I'm thinking about that for a while.


Garvin Gray    (2025-10-27 14:15:04)
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Before you take any action, you should actually check your facts regarding Israel. I really hate discussing this topic, but since now the site owner is considering taking similar against those who display the Israel flag as those who were from Russia and Belarus, it is extremely important to remember how we got here in both situations.

With Russia and Belarus, it was because they started a war of aggression on another correspondence chess federation.

And all sporting bodies took swift action against them in suspending their Federations and preventing their teams from competing, and players from competing and their own flag.

With the situation between Hamas/Hezbollah and Isreal, it was Hamas that was the aggressor. There was no war on July 6, 2023 and Gaza was in a state of peace. But then Hamas attacked Isreal, chopping the heads of babies and taking hostages and raping Israeli women hostages.

What did you expect the Isreali Government to do in response? Sit back and let a terrorist organisation keep the hostages and are you saying that Isreal does not have a right to defend itself?

It is quite disgusting that there are wars all over the world at the moment, about 20 at the moment, but it is only when Jews defend themselves that people feel the need to virtue signal their sense of outrage.

The correct word for them is anti-semites. We used to say 'Never again' after the Holocaust, but it now seem perfectly acceptable to support a terrorist organisation when it attacks Israel and Israel responds by trying to eliminate the threat once and for all.

And it should also be noted as we saw over a week ago. A sixth peace offer was made and Hamas responded like all the others. With more aggression.

Decide to take action against Israel on this site and you prove your antisemitism.


Thibault de Vassal    (2025-10-27 18:41:02)
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I don't intend to remake the whole debate here or anywhere else... I have other things to do. But in brief, IMO:

1. The situation was complex before oct.8
2. Hamas (terrorist org) started it.
3. More than 75% (!) of Gaza buildings were destroyed.
4. How many people killed, how many terrorists?
5. What are the limits of acceptability?

It seems possible to commit war crimes and/or a genocide after being attacked, right?

There can be absolutely no link between estimating that Israel commits a genocide and proving antisemitism, right?

There are other wars in the world, that's right (of different natures).

I'm not in a hurry to take any action... it will take time yet.


George Jempty    (2025-10-30 10:33:39)
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@Garvin, you can be anti-Isreal and NOT be anti-semitic. Do you think killling tens of thousands of innocent Palestinians is going to decrease future terrorism? Isreal's actions are giving rise to future generations of terrorists.


Bogoljub Teverovski    (2025-10-31 10:59:57)
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I see a lot of political experts here. My preference is to avoid playing russians either with their bloody flag or without it.


George Jempty    (2025-11-04 14:25:26)
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It's not a matter of being a "political expert". It's just a matter of knowing your history. "Between May 3 and 12, 1916, the British military executed 15 leaders of the Easter Rising for their roles in the rebellion" .... "The swift and public executions, conducted during the First World War, generated significant public outrage and sympathy for the rebel cause in Ireland. What was initially a mixed public reaction to the Rising turned into widespread support". And that was for killing 15 people, so my educated guess is there will eventually be retribution for Israel indisputably (again, not an opinion, or me being a "political expert") KILLING TENS OF THOUSAND OF PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS.


Ulises Pineda    (2025-11-10 17:16:18)
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It's very interesting that the only message here from people actually involved is from an Ukranian that was happy becoming Russian. There's always two sides of the story, it's unfortunate almost nobody speaks Russian and we only get to hear the "English speaking world" narrative of the events where the side to take is clear, and you never get to know about the critical events happening there because they are only shown in a language nobody reads.


Thibault de Vassal    (2025-11-12 15:24:31)
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As for me, I don't trust in testimonies, I trust consensus & serious proofs. Nowadays, war crimes are documented. I'm not in a hurry, let's wait & see.


George Jempty    (2025-11-17 23:52:51)
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Exactly, that was merely "anecotal evidence" of one Ukranian happy becoming Russian. IMO and most of the non-Russian world, INVADING the Ukraine was utterly reprehensible, as is the Israel INDISPUTABLY committing genocide in the Ukraine, AND the USA sinking ships and killing people WITH NO DUE CAUSE in the Carribean. I'd happily change my flag to somewhere I'm from, does Long Island have a flag? Because I may be from the United States, but I am NOT from North America ;)