´╗┐ Quote festival part 4


Quote festival, part 4

Back to forum

Thibault de Vassal    (2008-03-18)
Quote festival, part 4

Now everyone (but newcomers) know the principle :)

Feel free to let your madness go and share your own quotes about chess, life and whatever.. The best ones will enter the FICGS quotes files :)

... just like in this previous thread :


- Hello Thibault, if I have had a plan (and I had one, I hope), I have forgotten it during the last week... - Hello Heinz-Georg. What do you mean a plan ? :)

(Anonymous players during a Big Chess game)

Dan Rotaru    (2008-03-18 22:35:44)
Quote festival, part 4

"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible" - F. Zappa

Thibault de Vassal    (2008-03-18 23:18:08)
Quote festival, part 4

So true.. :)

"If only faces could talk..." - Pat Summerall, Sportscaster, during the Super Bowl

Don Burden    (2008-03-19 19:59:11)
Quote festival, part 4

Playing chess on FICGS without computer help is like being a one-legged man in a butt kicking contest!

Don Groves    (2008-03-24 22:34:11)
Quote festival

"The quickest way to double your money is to fold it in half and put it back in your pocket." -- unknown

Don Groves    (2008-03-24 22:35:16)

"There are two theories about arguing with women. Neither one works." -- unknown

Don Groves    (2008-03-24 22:52:52)

I just discovered those last two quotes I sent were by Will Rogers, an American humorist who died in a airplane crash in 1935.

Mark Hailes    (2008-04-01 21:56:46)

The most common of all follies is to believe passionately in the palpably untrue - H.L. Mencken

Mark Hailes    (2008-04-01 21:58:02)

People will work every bit as hard to fool themselves as they will to fool others - Robert Park

Rodolfo d Ettorre    (2008-05-10 15:28:38)
Silly quotes ...

I found this one in a Simpson coffee mug:

Trying is the first step towards failure.

Omer Sympson

Ilmars Cirulis    (2008-05-10 18:16:05)

"I don't worry about death - because I was dead billions of year before my birth."

I don't know author.

Andrew Stephenson    (2008-05-10 19:56:31)

A good slow man you can work with a dishonest brilliant one will kill you every time - Warren Buffet

Andrew Stephenson    (2008-05-10 20:10:02)

Don't worry about life we're just passing through anyway - New York Taxi Driver

Paul-Iosif Guralivu    (2008-05-10 21:24:00)

My own laws of murphy about patches(being a programmer) - from my own experience:

1. A patch will allways replace a bug with more.

2. A patch will make your program taking more space on hdd, and more memory while running.

Effects: Higher probability of operating system to crash, because of lake of resources Therefore the probability of program to crash is direct proportional with the number and the size of patches.

Thibault de Vassal    (2008-05-18 21:45:48)

I just read these famous ones :)

"Whenever people agree with me, I always feel I must be wrong." , "Experience is the name we all give to our mistakes." (Oscar Wilde)

"An expert is a man who has made all the mistakes which can be made in a very narrow field." (Niels Bohr)

Ilmars Cirulis    (2008-05-19 13:52:11)

I like the one from Bohr.

Arnab Sengupta    (2008-05-21 18:55:19)

1. "There are only two kinds of tragedy in this world, one is not getting what you want and the other is getting."- Lord of War 2. "We cannot be sure of having something to live for unless we are willing to die for it."- Ernesto Che Guevara 3. "History will be kind to me for I intend to write it." Winston Churchill 4. "You must have a dream in order to have it come true" - A.P.J Kalam 5. "However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results." Winston Churchill 6. "If you are going through hell, keep going." Winston Churchill NOW THE BEST 7. "It is a good thing for an uneducated man to read books of quotations." Winston Churchill

Mladen Jankovic    (2008-05-27 16:21:52)
Local chess saying

"Life is like chess, just when you think everything is OK, some horse comes along and takes your queen!"

Graham Cridland    (2008-06-05 00:18:34)
Warren Buffett again

"If markets were efficient, I'd be a bum with a tin cup."

Thibault de Vassal    (2008-06-05 01:32:51)

I've just added nice quotes from Starwars & The Good, The Bad & The Ugly :)

Benjamin Block    (2008-06-14 10:56:40)
Quote festival, part 4

You can┤t win the best player. Because if you win him he is not the best. (Benjamin Block)

Pablo Schmid    (2008-06-15 10:56:36)
my idea

Maybe it's already exist in another form but I will try."The best correspondance player at chess is not the human who has the best computer but the computer who has the best human".

Thibault de Vassal    (2008-06-15 22:20:13)

A nice one, Pablo :)

Jason Repa    (2008-06-17 00:45:04)

It does sound very nice. But is it really true?

Rodolfo d Ettorre    (2008-06-17 16:36:06)
Quotes ...

I have got this quote, it is in Italian:

Chi troppo s'abbassa mostra il sedere

Unfortunately my English is not very good, if some Italian bilingual could translate it...

Rodolfo d Ettorre    (2008-06-18 13:58:28)
Quotes - translation

I think it is something like:

Who bows down too much shows his bottom.

Don Groves    (2008-06-29 04:38:39)
One from Dave Barry

"People who want to share their religious views with you almost never want you to share yours with them." -- Dave Barry

Rodolfo d Ettorre    (2008-06-29 08:05:35)
From a silly movie ...

Religion is like wine, it most be tabken with moderation.

Rodolfo d Ettorre    (2008-06-29 08:07:01)
Sorry about the spelling...

Religion is like wine, it most be taken with moderation.

Don Groves    (2008-07-01 20:53:14)
Another one on religion...

"Religion is the opiate of the masses." -- Karl Marx

Ilmars Cirulis    (2008-07-02 14:36:09)

You can look at infidels.org or richarddawkins.net for atheistic quotes. :)

Normajean Yates    (2008-07-11 02:21:59)
Osho Rajneesh's last sermon in the USA

[before he was deported]

"The party is over. Go home."

Thibault de Vassal    (2008-07-17 04:40:24)
Quotes added from House M.D.

The quotes file grow :) .. a few nice ones from Gregory House (House M.D.), ie:

- You can think I'm wrong, but that's no reason to quit thinking.

- I take risks, sometimes patients die, but not taking risks causes more patients to die - so I guess my biggest problem is I've been cursed with the ability to do the math.

Applies also to chess & Go :)

BTW this TV series is an enormous - deserved - success in France (too).

Michael Aigner    (2008-08-02 17:13:22)
The future of chess

A game between two unlimited intellect would proceed as follows. They sit down at the chess-board,draw the colors,and then survey the pieces for a moment.Then either (1)A says I resign or (2)B says I resign or (3)A says I offer a draw,and B replies,I accept. (C.E.Shannon)

Don Groves    (2008-08-02 23:45:46)
The future of chess...

Claude Shannon, who died in 2001, is known as the father of information theory and also wrote the first paper on computer chess in 1950. If anyone was qualified to make such a statement, it was him.

Normajean Yates    (2008-08-03 03:16:24)
but that is obvious...

2-person finite game of complete information, so ... obviously true. [just stipulate that a repetition of a FEN is an auto-draw and it becomes a finite game without changing anything..]

The proof is trivial if you think about it. Writing it down formally is rather a pain but introduces useful concepts like solution trees. John von Neumann wrote it down isnt it.. [and not Claude Shannon...]

Don Groves    (2008-08-03 07:17:01)
But that is obvious...

I don't know if Shannon ever tried to write a proof of his statement.

Mladen Jankovic    (2008-08-04 12:45:58)
Strategy stealing

Actually, that comes from the strategy stealing argument in the game theory.

Shannon was the first to formaly study theory of chess engines. See:

Rodolfo d Ettorre    (2008-08-04 15:06:15)
A silly one .....

I read this somewhere ...

Comparing George W Bush with Bill Clinton is worse than comparing Monica Lewinsky with Condoleezza Rice

Don Groves    (2008-08-04 23:52:18)
Thanks for the link!

Hello, Mladen -- thanks for the link to Shannon's paper!

Don Groves    (2008-08-05 05:27:47)
Another one by Gloria Steinem

"If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament."

Andrew Stephenson    (2008-08-05 09:14:08)
Not Gloria

Yur quote about if men could get pregnant is Florynce R Kennedy - not Gloria Steinem. Steinem was quoting Kennedy

Normajean Yates    (2008-08-06 02:46:21)
Mladen thanks for the link (2nd)!

Mladen, from me too, thanks for the link to Shannon's paper!

Normajean Yates    (2008-08-06 02:50:15)
re strategy stealing...

What I meant was to try and define 'strategy stealing' formally you have to define 'strategy' - which is a solution subtree of your game tree -- etc etc :) A combinatorial 2-person complete-information game being a quintuple blah-blah-blah ...

Don Groves    (2008-08-06 03:06:27)
Thank you Andrew...

... for the correction. I see she has many other good quotes also ;-)

Normajean Yates    (2008-08-06 03:30:00)
where does strategy stealing come in?

What is 'obvious' but provable is: "A finite combinatorial 2 person game of complete-information is deterministic [ie has a pure srategy, considered as a 'pure game-theory' 2-person game]. To prove that, one needs to define a 2-person complete-info combinatorial game, and strategies in that context [which come out to be "solution subtrees"]

I dont see where strategy stelaing comes in - it does come in eg for the trivial but nonconstructive proof that nxn hex is a win for the first player ...

Mladen Jankovic    (2008-08-08 10:56:13)
You answered it...

It comes in trivial nonconstructive proofs. And that is all we need to know to determine possible outcomes of the game (the vastly superior intellects would also know how).

Normajean Yates    (2008-08-08 22:57:24)
to Mladen - :) Agreed.

:) . Agreed.

Don Groves    (2008-08-08 23:08:56)

So then we have a proof that no human possesses a vastly superior intellect ;-)

Nicola Lupinacci    (2008-08-09 01:07:27)

"The pin is mightier than the sword...but the fork is mightier than the pin!"

I don't know who said this...

Andrew Stephenson    (2008-08-09 03:35:42)
Pins and swords

"The pin is mightier than the sword" is apparently a quote from Fred Reinfield being a play on pen is mightier than the sword etc. The addition "but the fork is mightier thn the pin" might just be something someone on chess.com made up!

Normajean Yates    (2008-08-09 07:30:14)
concatenation-or-lack-thereof disasters

typos can easily convert quotes into bad jokes :|

The pen is mightier than the sword. [careful to hit spacebar after 'pen'!]

or say while typing 'psychotherapist', careful that something is not hitting the space bar after the 'o' and also before the 'r' :)

Normajean Yates    (2008-08-09 07:31:12)
so: the pin

so 'the pin is mightier than the sword'. safer quote :)

Don Groves    (2008-08-09 07:48:36)

Normajean escrit: The pen is mightier than the sword. [careful to hit spacebar after 'pen'!]

There are those who think this is true even without the space. Apparently many of these are American politicians.

Rodolfo d Ettorre    (2008-08-09 13:40:31)

If you do not want to hit the spacebar, look at this link:


Normajean Yates    (2008-08-09 14:07:10)
Don Graves - I agree

I agree.

"This rape is political." "Which rape is not political?" from an old Nuruddin Farah novel - one in a trilogy...

Normajean Yates    (2008-08-12 01:42:02)
very useful latin quote!

pereant qui ante nos nostra dixerunt.

(may they perish who have expressed our bright ideas before us)

Normajean Yates    (2008-08-12 01:44:10)
a french one - apt for chess/bigchess/go

c'est plus qu'un crime, c'est une faute!