Poll renaming the Queen as Dragon

  
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Thibault de Vassal    (2018-04-01)
Poll: renaming the Queen as Dragon

Hi all,

As it may be quite sexist to have King and Queen with different importances on the chess board, what about renaming and changing the icon of the Queen for a Dragon? The PGN notation could also evolve this way, replacing Q by letter D.

This change could be done very soon, what do you think?


Ilmars Cirulis    (2018-04-01 15:42:48)
Poll: renaming the Queen as Dragon

I dunno, the King and Queen nicely corresponds to tradicional domestic labour division. :Q


Thibault de Vassal    (2018-04-01 17:46:37)
Poll: renaming the Queen as Dragon

:)))) now I don't know anymore what is the most sexist, the game as it is now, your comment or mine? ^^


Ilmars Cirulis    (2018-04-01 18:12:31)
Poll: renaming the Queen as Dragon

Traditional domestic labour division is the most sexist, if you ask me. (Anyway, that's probably discussion for some other website.)


William Taylor    (2018-04-01 18:42:20)
Poll: renaming the Queen as Dragon

Not sure how sexist it is, or to whom. Yes, the King is the most important piece, but the Queen is by far the most powerful. It seems more sexist to remove women from the game entirely by renaming the Queen.


Thibault de Vassal    (2018-04-01 19:28:15)
Poll: renaming the Queen as Dragon

Ah. Interesting point... or maybe by replacing Kings by God & Evil? Hmm, no... or maybe cats.

And what about this Black & White thing? So many questions :)


William Taylor    (2018-04-01 19:36:39)
Poll: renaming the Queen as Dragon

Black and White is at least the other way round in Go. Perhaps you should switch chess to Black moving first, and Go to White moving first, for the benefit of those of us who don't play both games.
The problem with cats, of course, is that we would be leaving out dogs.


Ilmars Cirulis    (2018-04-01 19:38:11)
Poll: renaming the Queen as Dragon

Queen -> Cat, King -> Mouse.
Still thinking about B & W.


William Taylor    (2018-04-01 19:45:27)
Poll: renaming the Queen as Dragon

Hmm. There is already a game, played on a chessboard, where the pieces are renamed in similar fashion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arimaa
Good game, btw.


Thibault de Vassal    (2018-04-01 21:22:05)
Poll: renaming the Queen as Dragon

Reversing colors... I like that :)

Arimaa of course! quite well known game.


Stanislas Gounant    (2018-04-01 22:03:34)
Poll: renaming the Queen as Dragon

And renaming Bishop as Elf and Rook as Dwarf?


William Taylor    (2018-04-01 22:11:41)
Poll: renaming the Queen as Dragon

Then you would have to give the Rooks/Dwarves the power to tunnel under other pieces, and the Bishops/Elves the power to shoot other pieces with their bows & arrows.


Thibault de Vassal    (2018-04-01 22:49:28)
Poll: renaming the Queen as Dragon

Why not Elf... maybe not Dwarf (even if the tunnel thing is pretty cool). I think we should completely replace chess for a "Game of thrones" or "Lord of ring" game ^^


William Taylor    (2018-04-01 22:56:16)
Poll: renaming the Queen as Dragon

Agreed. Only question now is what we do with chess games in progress - let them play out, or somehow convert them to the new game partway through?


Thibault de Vassal    (2018-04-01 23:01:03)
Poll: renaming the Queen as Dragon

Let's change everything now... why not? It's a revolution! We could be pioneers & spread the word, let's replace this old sexist game for a truly fashionable game!


William Taylor    (2018-04-01 23:06:04)
Poll: renaming the Queen as Dragon

On a related note, I have just moved to Paris, and had my first Domino's pizza here today, only to discover that it did not come with the traditional garlic & herb dip. I hope this is just another Frenchman playing an April Fool's joke on me, and that the dip will be back tomorrow, but who knows?


Thibault de Vassal    (2018-04-01 23:13:58)
Poll: renaming the Queen as Dragon

Anything can happen tomorrow :)


Steven DuCharme    (2018-04-01 23:56:26)
Poll: renaming the Queen as Dragon

How about DragQueen?


Thibault de Vassal    (2018-04-02 00:01:40)
Poll: renaming the Queen as Dragon

!!! :)


Stanislas Gounant    (2018-04-02 00:10:33)
Poll: renaming the Queen as Dragon

During french Revolution, there was some propositions to rename pieces:
King = Flag
Queen = Adjutant
Rook = Cannon
Knight = Rider
Pawn = Trooper

only male terms

http://www.mjae.com/revolution.html


Thibault de Vassal    (2018-04-02 00:13:20)
Poll: renaming the Queen as Dragon

Interesting! Reminds me the nice game The Attack ("L'attaque" en français). But only males in this one again.


Thibault de Vassal    (2018-04-02 03:25:33)
Poll: renaming the Queen as Dragon

Okay, time to "reveal" that this topic was my tentative of an april's fool joke, of course... Everyone understood it at the first line, I guess :o)


Rolf Staggat    (2018-04-02 15:00:31)
Poll: renaming the Queen as Dragon

We have enough dragons in real life - Angela Merkel, Theresa May and many others.....
Don´t need dragons on the chess-board. And the king is called Donald (Trump) then?
Or this North-Korean joke of a man is a pawn, better a double-pawn?
In a few years, when the Chinese rule the whole world, the king will be called Mao. :)


Thibault de Vassal    (2018-04-02 22:09:05)
Poll: renaming the Queen as Dragon

I thought about this kind of joke... didn't dare ^^ But this kind of pieces could be added in the Musketeer Chess variant.


Kym Farnik    (2018-04-04 11:37:11)
Poll: renaming the Queen as Dragon

D = Damen is German PGN - so maybe it is not so foolish?
Ditto N = S Springer









 

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