On almost global forfeits in WCH

  
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Thibault de Vassal    (2018-07-27)
On (almost) global forfeits in WCH

Hi all,

I'd like to gather opinions on several cases that may happen or have happened in WCH tournaments.

1) Let's say that one player lost on time 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6 games out of 7 (for any reason) in a WCH tournament, after having won one or several games.

2) Let's say that one player resigned 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6 games out of 7 (for any reason) in a WCH tournament, after having won one or several games.

3) Let's say that one player lost on time or resigned 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6 games out of 7 (for any reason)in a WCH tournament, after having won one or several games.

Obviously, there may be possible unfair situations for one or several players, but it is not so easy to find a fair global solution for all cases. Should those wins (by the player who lost on time and/or resigned several games) not be taken in account? Any suggestions for a simple/clear rule?

I must say that I'm not so favourable to add such a rule at a first sight, but let's see how this discussion may lead.

Many thanks in advance.


Herbert Kruse    (2018-07-27 08:23:52)
On (almost) global forfeits in WCH

in other sports, like german football leages all games of this team are lost


Thibault de Vassal    (2018-07-28 22:11:58)
On (almost) global forfeits in WCH

In all mentioned cases? Or even since one game lost on time?


Herbert Kruse    (2018-07-28 23:54:21)
On (almost) global forfeits in WCH

If the resignation of an association from the game round during the current game year, his previously played games are not to be evaluated if the resignation takes place before the last four championship games of this team in the game year


Gabriele D Agostino    (2018-07-29 15:11:21)
On (almost) global forfeits in WCH

In my opinion if a player lost on time more than 50% of their games in a round robin tournament, all game against him are considered as a win for the opponent.


Thibault de Vassal    (2018-07-29 18:27:22)
On (almost) global forfeits in WCH

Thanks Gabriele for sharing your point of view (we always need more :-))... that's a part of the problem IMO, even a balanced percentage may/will not satisfy everyone as soon as any percentage below can suddenly decide the winner of the tournament. And of course, there are many reasons to lose only one game on time (or to have to resign it for personal matters).


Gabriele D Agostino    (2018-07-29 20:48:31)
On (almost) global forfeits in WCH

Thank you Thibault for trying to improve the rules. There are good reasons in either case, consider all the results or give 1 point to everyone. Any decision will not satisfy anyone.
Such a rule is in the FIDE tournament regulations. (8.2)
https://www.fide.com/FIDE/handbook/Competition_Rules.pdf
Obviously we can choose a different rule.









 

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