IQ vs Multple Intelligence


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Nick Burrows    (2007-07-15)
IQ vs Multple Intelligence

Are there other forms of intellingence independant of having a high IQ? Or are they simply 'skills'?
How about...
1. Linguistic intelligence involving sensitivity to spoken and written language, the ability to learn languages, and the capacity to use language to accomplish certain goals. This intelligence includes the ability to effectively use language to express oneself rhetorically or poetically; and language as a means to remember information. Writers, poets, lawyers and speakers are among those that
2. Logical-mathematical intelligence consisting of the capacity to analyze problems logically, carry out mathematical operations, and investigate issues scientifically. This entails the ability to detect patterns, reason deductively and think logically. This intelligence is most often associated with scientific and mathematical thinking.
3. Musical intelligence involving skill in the performance, composition, and appreciation of musical patterns. It encompasses the capacity to recognize and compose musical pitches, tones, and rhythms.
4. Bodily-kinesthetic intelligence entailing the potential of using one's whole body or parts of the body to solve problems. It is the ability to use mental abilities to coordinate bodily movements.
5. Spatial intelligence involving the potential to recognize and use the patterns of wide space and more confined areas.
6. Interpersonal intelligence is concerned with the capacity to understand the intentions, motivations and desires of other people. It allows people to work effectively with others. Educators, salespeople, religious and political leaders and counsellors all need a well-developed interpersonal intelligence.
7. Intrapersonal intelligence entails the capacity to understand oneself, to appreciate one's feelings, fears and motivations.

Jason Repa    (2007-07-15 20:45:57)

This is your "argument"? You copy and paste some drivel where they seem to substitute the word "skill" with "intelligence", or perhaps you did that.
You don't provide any sources or qualifications of the author whatsoever.
This is too entertaining and unbelievable to make up!!

in a statement signed by 52 psychologists, published in the December 13, 1994 Wall Street Journal

"1. Intelligence exists as a very general mental capability involving ability to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend complex ideas, learn quickly and learn from experience. The brain processes involved are little understood.
2. Intelligence can be measured, and IQ tests measure it well. Nonverbal tests can be used where language skills are weak.
3. IQ tests are not culturally biased.
4. IQ is more strongly related than any other measurable human trait to educational, occupational, economic, and social outcomes. Whatever it is that IQ tests measure, it is very important.
5. Genetics plays a bigger role than environment in intelligence, but environment has a strong effect.
6. Individuals are not born with an unchangeable IQ, but it gradually stabilizes during childhood and changes little thereafter."

I think 52 psychologists might be a bit more qualified than the random blog where you copied and pasted from.

Nick Burrows    (2007-07-15 20:57:58)
IQ vs Multple Intelligence

I believe that autistic savants or chess geniuses such as Fisher have an exremely advanced logical-mathematical intelligence, often to the detriment of other skills and forms of intelligence
I believe that great human beings who positively affect the lives of millions - such as Gandi - have a morerounded intelligence, rather than one that is exclusively focused in one narrow field.

Nick Burrows    (2007-07-15 20:59:38)
IQ vs Multple Intelligence

Jason, you seem more interestd in a copy & paste off, than the actual topic of discussion.

Jason Repa    (2007-07-15 21:02:01)
IQ is intelligence. Skills are Skills.

You can believe whatever you care to believe. If you want to believe the earth is flat and the stars are stationary in the sky, you are free to, but that doesn't make it true.

As I said, I think 52 professional psychologists might be a bit more qualified than some random internet blogger.

Jason Repa    (2007-07-15 21:04:02)
facts vs fiction

burrows, I backed up my posts with references and sources that are qualified to make such claims. You're just copying and pasting the first internet blog contents that suit your fancy.

I'm beginning to understand why you're an under 100 bcf grade.

Nick Burrows    (2007-07-15 21:06:29)
IQ vs Multple Intelligence

So you don't have an opinion, you just want to relay what 52 Psychologists said about IQ in 1994?

Nick Burrows    (2007-07-15 21:09:54)
IQ vs Multple Intelligence

I'm trying to discuss content. You seem to wish to argue about credibility and references.
And yet again you bring up chess grades, In one moment you chastise Wolfgang that they prove nothing, now you are claiming greater intelligence due toa higher grade?!

Jason Repa    (2007-07-15 21:12:20)
My Opinion

I certainly do have an opinion. My opinion is that you have a very low IQ burrows, and don't have a clue how to do research. You like to make things up as you go along and change the subject when you're cornered and proven wrong. Very poor form!

It seems I have to talk to you as I would a very young child. It should go without saying that the opinion of 52 professionals in a given area should have some value when they're commenting in the area they have expertise in. If 52 mechanics told you that your car needs a new alternator would you argue and tell people to have their own opinion on the matter? This is what you're doing here.

Jason Repa    (2007-07-15 21:15:12)
IQ is intelligence. Skills are Skills

Actually, you're not trying to discuss any content at all. You seem to be content to copy and paste random internet blog content with the sole intention of arguing for the sake of arguing. It's really quite pathetic!

Jason Repa    (2007-07-15 21:18:20)
IQ is intelligence. Skills are Skills

You're resorting to telling blatant lies again eh burrows? I guess I shouldn't be surprised. This is what you were doing before when you painted yourself into a corner.

I in in way, shape, or form said that "chess ratings prove nothing". You need to re-read my post and stop teling lies. That's very pathetic behavoir.

As I said, it's clear now why you're an under 100 BCF player.

Ilmars Cirulis    (2007-07-15 21:33:35)
My two cents..

+1 to Nick Burrows

Psychologists have different opinions. And 52 psychologists - it is only a drop in ocean.

By the way.. I like more Nick than you, Jason.

There must be at least one more kind of social intelligence. Social or, may be, emotional intellingence. It looks that you lack of that kind of intelligence. Sorry..


Ilmars Cirulis    (2007-07-15 21:39:43)
My third cent..

IQ is part of something bigger, I am sure.

Ilmars Cirulis    (2007-07-15 22:07:25)

Because my poor english, you can see in my first post one unnecessary 'of' - after 'lack'.

Jason Repa    (2007-07-16 01:50:57)
IQ is intelligence. Skills are Skills

Well Cirulis, I don't like you at all, I mean ZERO. But I can see why you agree with burrows, even though he didn't make a shred of're two peas in a pod.

Nice 1510 rating.

Ilmars Cirulis    (2007-07-16 04:23:05)
2 Jason

IQ measures only part of personality.

Which standard IQ test can measure emphaty? Without emphaty you are machine, not human. No meaning how big IQ you have.

Ilmars Cirulis    (2007-07-16 04:30:03)
Just for clarity, Jason

It seems to me that you're thinking in this way:
Only IQ measures intelligence. And other sides of personality don't belong to intelligence.

Do I understand you correctly?

Ilmars Cirulis    (2007-07-16 04:47:17)
Who knows...

Maybe it is because of my wrong terminology. Then, how I must call other things that traditional IQ test don't measure? Does emphaty (for example) don't earn honour to be included into intelligence?

Can you enlighten me, Jason?