Fritz 12 Shredder 12 Junior 12


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Thibault de Vassal    (2008-05-19)
Fritz 12, Shredder 12, Junior 12

While Rybka 2.3.2a w32 1CPU/mp still leads CEGT rating lists, Fritz 11 is now only about 50 elo points behind...

CEGT 40/20 (AMD 4200+)

Rybka 2.3.2a w32 1CPU - 2966
Fritz 11 - 2913
Naum 3.1 w32 1CPU - 2890
Deep Shredder 11 w32 1CPU - 2890
Hiarcs 12 SP 1CPU - 2869
Toga II 1.4.2JD 1CPU - 2864
Fruit 2.4 Beta A w32 1CPU - 2864
Zappa Mexico II w32 1CPU - 2844

Any predictions on the future ratings of Rybka 3 & Chessbase engines : Fritz 12, Shredder 12, Junior 12, Hiarcs 13, Zappa or other free engines ?

I can't find a rating for Junior 11 in CEGT rating lists, does anyone know it ?

Dirk Ghysens    (2008-05-20 07:12:26)

I believe the latest version of Junior is Junior 10.

Benjamin Block    (2008-05-20 17:23:43)
New chess eninges champion

when come the next eninges that beat current eninges champion?

Thibault de Vassal    (2008-05-20 17:35:16)
Qutie fnnuy :)

Qutie fnnuy to see taht wthaveer the oderr of leettrs (but frist and lsat), one awylas utsanerdnad the mniaeng of ervey stneecne. The biran is rlleay ainzmag dno't you tnihk ?

Benjamin Block    (2008-05-20 17:38:15)
answer Thibault strange message!

Are you drunk?

Thibault de Vassal    (2008-05-20 17:40:27)
New chess eninges champion

Maybe the surprising Naum, but I wouldn't be so surprised if Fritz 12 (let's say Fritz 13) finally catches the king Rybka.

Thibault de Vassal    (2008-05-20 17:43:04)
strange message

Hi Benjamin, the strange message was following your word "eninges". I'm quite sure that many did not see the difference with "engines" :)

Mladen Jankovic    (2008-05-21 11:20:18)
re: Thibault

That only works with words we use more or less daily.

Normajean Yates    (2008-07-04 23:25:37)
you dont get thibault's point

thibault's point is that engines can't do this kind of pattern recognition. At least no one yet knows of a way to make them do it - i mean a way that *works* rather than giving spectacular results on 10% of the positions and spouting nonsense lines on the remaining. I will refrain from ranting about innate and Kant and Chomsky - speciaaly since i just did it last week on ;)