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Hannes Rada    (2007-09-06)
FICGS Hardware + Software

In my opininon it would be interesting to know on which hardware + software (Opening system, database) our server is running ? So Thibault, hope that's not a big secret :-)


Ilmars Cirulis    (2007-09-06 21:31:47)
:)

Software seems to be unique, made by Thibault. ;)


Thibault de Vassal    (2007-09-06 23:13:15)
FICGS Hardware + Software

Well, not very original : Linux / PHP / SQL :)


Ilmars Cirulis    (2007-09-07 01:46:18)
:D

It seems that we understood word 'software' diferently... :)


Thibault de Vassal    (2007-09-07 02:08:01)
Hardware and software

Oops, sorry I forgot to answer about the hardware but anyway the site should move soon on a new server.

Linux, Sql, Php, FICGS, that's all software, only "those parts of the system that you can hit with a hammer (not advised) is called hardware"...


Ilmars Cirulis    (2007-09-07 02:24:29)
:)

I understand 'software' (it seems that by mistake) as Wikichess, chat, move making etc.

Yes, I know standard meaning of 'software' :P


Mladen Jankovic    (2007-09-08 00:46:47)
software

Are you using MySQL?

And, did you script all of the site yourself (other than some obvious external plugins)?

What distribution of Linux are you running if I might ask?

I have to commend it to you, the site certainly seems to have a good uptime, I have never encountered a problem accessing it, and only a single bug, promptly fixed.


Ulrich Imbeck    (2007-09-08 02:23:05)
chessage.com,schachtrainer.de

The guy from chessage.com (schachtrainer.de) scripted also his site himself.


Thibault de Vassal    (2007-09-08 03:57:29)
Linux / MySQL

Hello Mladen.

Yes, MySQL. About the Linux distribution, Debian.. (if I remember well :))

And yes again, I did script all the site, already more than 500 php files (!) .. I was far to imagine this server when I started it ! .. Still much work to improve it for fast games... Finally, as it became quite huge, there are still (always) minor bugs that I correct as soon as I see them.


Mladen Jankovic    (2007-09-09 03:19:05)
Debian

Seems to be a common choice of distribution for small servers. Hard to configure right, but infinitely stable once done so. And also featuring the best package manager around.

I'm guessing that this site is the most for what this server is used for.

I also wonder what connection do you use. Would you mind if I scanned the server?


Thibault de Vassal    (2007-09-09 04:47:33)
Scan

Feel free... (and tell us :))


Mladen Jankovic    (2007-09-09 06:09:10)
Scan

You're using Courier Mail Server, other than that I found no information worth reporting, other than that you probably have a firewall, and a relatively decent one.


Jason Repa    (2007-09-09 09:26:13)
Scan

Scanning the server, geez, what next, you want to look over his source code?

What is the reason for all this?


Garvin Gray    (2007-09-09 09:58:58)
wonder?

If it annoys Jason, that is reason enough :)


Ulrich Imbeck    (2007-09-09 11:41:02)
interested in IT

We are interested in IT


Thibault de Vassal    (2007-09-09 13:01:29)
Source code

Anyway, no great secret in the source code, this is much work 'only'... :)


Jason Repa    (2007-09-09 15:15:18)
to: Garvin Gray

Run along little 1800 rated troll.


Garvin Gray    (2007-09-09 16:47:20)
money where your mouth is.


Hello oh so friendly Jason,

Since you think I am a little 1800 troll, care to back up your opinion with two FICGS__CHESS__BLITZ_SILVER__000004 for cold hard cash.

I will even let you be white in the first game.



Thibault de Vassal    (2007-09-09 16:59:52)
2 games matches

In this "case", you may also choose rapid or standard silver tourneys that are 2-players 2-games matches :)


Garvin Gray    (2007-09-09 17:36:29)
sharp as a tack.

This Thibault, never misses an opportunity to plug 100 e point tournaments :P


Thibault de Vassal    (2007-09-09 17:57:27)
Silver

I wrote silver, not gold tourneys :) .. Anyway noone has E-Points enough yet for those ones.


Garvin Gray    (2007-09-09 18:10:04)
hmmmmmmmm!!

I must be missing something. I dont see silver standard or rapid tournaments. All I see are gold ones.


Thibault de Vassal    (2007-09-09 18:15:24)
Ooops !

It seems I made too many updates in the waiting lists these last months... I forgot that I removed silver rapid & standard. Sorry :)


Hannes Rada    (2007-09-09 19:15:30)
chess diagrams

What I always wanted to know: Is there a public library for creating these board diagrams and for entering the moves ?


Thibault de Vassal    (2007-09-09 19:29:22)
chess diagrams

I have no idea... Anyway, I don't like libraries :)


Hannes Rada    (2007-09-09 21:30:30)
own development

Does that meant that the board and the interface for the input of the moves are your own development


Thibault de Vassal    (2007-09-09 21:45:34)
own development

Yes they are...


Jason Repa    (2007-09-09 22:48:45)
To: Garvin Gray

I don't "think" you're a troll my mentally challenged little friend. I KNOW you're a troll. This thread was about FICGS Hardware + Software. Your post here had nothing whatsoever to do with that. You posted only to harass and annoy. That is what a troll does.

Gray, I'd play you for $100 a game anytime, but playing against your program is not playing chess with you. You would never dream of playing with me wtihout having your program make the moves for you. You know it, and I know it. I'd beat you even easier than I beat llmars Cirulis, when he decided to try some HUMAN ONLY chess with me.


Mladen Jankovic    (2007-09-10 00:15:58)
Jason

Cool down a bit and don't shout, it's not a very civil thing to do. To me it seems obvious that Garvin has been joking. It might not be much of a joke, but it is still only a joke.

BTW, the only reason why I was asking questions is pure curiosity about the site, and what runs it so well! :)


Thibault de Vassal    (2007-09-10 00:27:33)
About provocation

I must say, even if it was a joke, that Garvin's post was not very useful... :) Jason answered, that's fine. The end.


Jason Repa    (2007-09-10 00:32:28)
Mladen

YOU cool down buddy! You need to learn to keep your mouth shut and mind your own business. There was no reason for you to get involved in this. Just stick to asking questions about the FICGS server.


Mladen Jankovic    (2007-09-10 00:46:07)
:P

;)

I was rather coolheaded to begin with, IMHO.

I'm also mostly done asking about the server for now.


Jason Repa    (2007-09-10 00:55:34)
[moderator : deleted]

(...)


Mladen Jankovic    (2007-09-10 01:54:09)
Confessions of a Magic 8 Ball ;)

Well, first off I started with the provisional rating of 1200, then I signed up for a bunch of tournaments and started playing 60+ games. Next, add irregular Internet access with no conditions to perform any reasonable analysis of games in progress and the pressing requirement to answer 40 moves in one go, only to go trough the same at the next soonest opportunity.

I "solved" the problem by not playing and forgetting about the server for about a month (needed that). For that reason I lost more than 250 points (254 to be exact).

Needless to say, the recovery of my rating to any decent level is slow, as, in the meantime I have gone trough periods when I played little chess here, or even none, with games in progress.

Your speculated reasons for my supposed intrusion here (it might be argued that your first post here is the real intrusion) are just plain wrong.

I also don't find ELO ratings to be a valid measure of a man. The real reason I "intrude" in the matter is that I like the general atmosphere here. I am also quiet aware that I am probably the lowest rated poster here, but, before few minutes ago, I was not aware of your rating (good job, while we're on the subject) or Garvin's, for that matter.


Thibault de Vassal    (2007-09-10 02:59:54)
New rule

Mladen and Jason, there's no need to add or respond to the provocation. Feel free to discuss the (IQ / chess rating) formula anywhere else.

I'm to add a new 'rule' in the terms & conditions : "Responding to a provocative message is strictly forbidden and will lead to get a limited access to the server during one month a first time, two months the second one and so on. In this case, please just warn the moderator in private."

Of course, provocation is strictly forbidden also, at the moderator's discretion.

In example, in this thread : Mladen, Garvin and Jason would get a limited access this time.


Jason Repa    (2007-09-10 03:14:13)
[moderator : partly deleted]

"I also don't find ELO ratings to be a valid measure of a man."

Of course you don't. (...)

Your "supposed" intrusion? (...) Garvin was way out of line and posted pure harassment that had nothing to do with the thread, or my post. I replied and gave it right back to him. It could have, and should have ended there, as Thibault pointed out. (...)

My post was indeed topical and perfectly legitimate for this thread. It was a valid question to ask what the reason for scanning the server might be.

(...)


Thibault de Vassal    (2007-09-10 03:29:34)
New rule takes effect now...

Jason, whatever the content, right or not, this kind of post now will lead to get a limited access to the server. Please just warn me if you read a provocative post and I'll do the necessary.

Thanks in advance.


Thibault de Vassal    (2007-09-10 03:42:07)
New rule

One more response in this discussion (Garvin, Mladen or Jason) and the rule will apply, of course.


Jason Repa    (2007-09-10 03:43:00)
New Rule

I just wanted to let you know that I composed my last post before you posted about the new rule. I now have read and acknowledge it.


Thibault de Vassal    (2007-09-10 03:48:53)
New rule

I know that :) .. No problem.


Rodolfo d Ettorre    (2007-09-10 04:05:57)
Re ...

Hi Thibault, really the whole site is very impressive, especially the board diagrams. Any chance you publish that part as a library? The reason is just curiosity, the few times I had to do web development, was just boring stuff, shopping basket and inventory, and at work I never did PHP development, only small things at home.


Thibault de Vassal    (2007-09-10 04:37:17)
Diagrams

Thanks Rodolfo :) .. But nothing complicate in these chess diagrams. No need to make a library, just have a look at the HTML/CSS code... then make some loops with PHP, very simple. The only 'real' algorithm was to capture the dead groups at Go.


Ilmars Cirulis    (2007-09-10 11:43:54)
:P

'Funny' offtopic above.


Rodolfo d Ettorre    (2007-09-12 03:54:50)
draggy and droppy

Hi Thibault, I found this link:

http://www.walterzorn.com/dragdrop/dragdrop_e.htm

It is abount drag and drop without java, but I think it will restrict us to IE


Thibault de Vassal    (2007-09-12 16:45:49)
drag and drop

Thanks Rodolfo, that's very interesting anyway, I'll have a deeper look very soon on it.









 

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