Chess engines in no engines tournaments

  

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Thibault de Vassal    (2018-01-22)
Chess engines in no engines tournaments

New topic to discuss what should be done when chess engines are probably or obviously used in no engines tournaments. Not so easy to judge, and it would be easy to make it quite invisible IMHO.

- Elo rating points loss?
- Loss of all games in the tournament?
- Nothing (comments will be enough)

Any other idea or preference?


Garvin Gray    (2018-01-22 01:06:01)
Chess engines in no engines tournaments

The penalties have to be similar to players who are caught using engines at otb tournaments.

Loss of all games in the tournament ie they are kicked out of the tournament and then further sanctions are applied.

But working out how the person used engine assistance is the key question?

Most would say, oh the player choose the top or second ranked engine move almost all of the time. But most decent players would do that anyways.

So that is not a good enough standard. And so that then needs a new test.

It is personally one of the reasons why I did not speak in favour of the event.


Thibault de Vassal    (2018-01-22 02:00:23)
Chess engines in no engines tournaments

I did not mean for the King tourney in particular. All no engines tournaments would run under that rule. But you're right, not so easy and many would say such human decision is not good for a chess server.


Herbert Kruse    (2018-01-22 09:12:32)
Chess engines in no engines tournaments

where is the point in playing with an engine in no engine tournaments, there is nothing to win


Thibault de Vassal    (2018-01-22 19:45:30)
Chess engines in no engines tournaments

I guess that some people just like to win games :)


Thibault de Vassal    (2018-01-23 00:43:23)
Chess engines in no engines tournaments

... at least, for those who think by themselves (a vast majority, I guess), here's some help :)

http://image.farnik.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Think_In_Chess

Good advices here but it will not be enough to save some of my games ;)


Kym Farnik    (2018-01-24 09:33:59)
Chess engines in no engines tournaments

Most of that Article above is taken from the writings of C (Cecil) J S Purdy, the first Correspondence Chess World Champion [1950-1953] (a fellow Australian).

His games http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessplayer?pid=31309

More information...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Purdy