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Ilmars Cirulis    (2006-11-13)

I think that
- Latvian gambit 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f5
- Traxler counterattack 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 Bc5
is won by white.

So I challenge everyone serious player who wants to play Latvian gambit or Traxler counterattack (for example, Thibault Vassal :D ) with black.

My e-mail is

Ilmars Cirulis. :D

Thibault de Vassal    (2006-11-13 15:36:42)

I'll defend these openings :)

I sent an email to you.

Ilmars Cirulis    (2006-11-13 18:01:40)
Let's start!

I send to you answer.

Ilmars Cirulis    (2006-11-13 22:11:42)

Thibault, did you read my thoughts? :D

Thanks very much fo Marshall counterattack thematic!!

Thibault de Vassal    (2006-11-14 00:39:01)

Hi Ilmars. You mean the email with the lines we play ?

Ilmars Cirulis    (2006-11-14 00:40:19)

Yes, I do.

Ilmars Cirulis    (2006-11-20 23:17:33)

Are you busy?

Thibault de Vassal    (2006-11-21 11:14:13)

Hi Ilmars.

Sorry, the weather was quite bad yesterday and we had some electricity problems here :)

I'll respond to your moves today. (I responded already in the Traxler line, please re-send your move to me, thx)

Thibault de Vassal    (2006-12-23 05:26:35)
The games

Here are the games so far :)

Traxler counter-attack :

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 Bc5 5.Nxf7 Bxf2+ 6.Kxf2 Nxe4+ 7.Ke3 Qh4 8.g3 Nxg3 9.hxg3 Qd4+ 10.Kf3 d5 11.Rh4 e4+ 12.Kg2 0-0 13.Bb3 Rxf7 14.Qg1 Qf6 15.Rf4 Qe6 16.Nc3 Qh3+ 17.Kf2 Be6 18.Nxd5 Nd4 19.Rxf7 Bxf7 20.Nf4 Qf5 21.Bxf7+ Qxf7 22.Qd1 g5 23.Qg4 Qf6 24.Kg2 Rf8 25.b3 Nxc2 26.Rb1 Ne1+ 27.*

Latvian gambit :

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f5 3.Bc4 fxe4 4.Nxe5 d5 5.Qh5+ g6 6.Nxg6 hxg6 7.Qxh8 Kf7 8.Qd4 Nf6 9.Be2 c5 10.Qe3 Nc6 11.O-O Nd4 12.Na3 Bd6 13.f4 Ng4 14.Bxg4 Bxg4 15.h3 Qh4 16.d3 Ne2+ 17.Kh2 d4 0-1

So result will be most probably Cirulis : 0,5 - de Vassal : 1,5

Thanks Ilmars for very interesting games ! These openings are really good weapons... (for Black :))

Steve Sabean    (2006-12-23 16:58:08)

I have heard from many players of a wide range of strength that the Traxler is busted for Black. The trouble is, none of them appear to have proof. A few years ago, I played in a Traxler thematic in IECG. I had a great time, learned a lot, and managed second place overall. My own assessment is: unclear, but Black is probably OK. So, why not have a Traxler thematic tournament here on FICGS, to settle the matter once and for all. :D Maybe it could be a double round robin, to be fair to those who feel that one side or the other has the advantage. I would sign on for such a tournament. Nice Latvian, btw.

Thibault de Vassal    (2006-12-24 11:57:24)

Hello Steve.

We had 2 Traxler thematic tournaments already :)

Maybe we'll have another one (or double round-robin, why not) :)

Ilmars Cirulis    (2006-12-24 19:29:15)
Merry Christmas, Thibault! ;)

Thanks to Thibault for big XP in Latvian and Traxler. :)

>> About Latvian gambit game:

11.0-0 is a mistake. King feels safer in centre.
11.f3 is the best white move. IMO

I am still thinking that Latvian gambit and Traxler counterattack is won for white. :D

Now I will play 5.Bxf7+ in Traxler. 5.Nxf7+ is too complex for me yet (IMO it is winning too).

Steve Sabean    (2006-12-25 22:45:03)
Sounds like a challenge

The gauntlet has been thrown down! How about this: We play two games, I will play Black in both. In one, White plays 5 Bxf7+ and in the other, White plays 5 Nxf7. We could play here if M. de Vassal would be kind enough to set it up, or if not, then e-mail is OK.

Ilmars Cirulis    (2006-12-26 09:56:31)
I agree! :)

OK, my e-mail is

Ilmars Cirulis    (2006-12-26 10:55:45)
About Traxler counterattack

My sixteenth move was a mistake. Much better would be 16.d3. IMO

Ilmars Cirulis    (2006-12-26 11:01:00)
About Traxler counterattack

16.Nc3? Qh3+ 17.Kf2 Rxf4+ 18.gxf4 Qf3+ 19.Ke1 Be6 - it looks like a draw.

Steve Sabean    (2006-12-26 22:26:57)
The games are on!

OK Ilmars, I have sent my moves to your e-mail. Good luck!

Ilmars Cirulis    (2007-02-08 21:04:34)
Steve, how do you do?

I send my move to you in Jan 15.

And I don't have your answer! :( What's going?





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