10 moves rule for Poker

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Thibault de Vassal    (2010-06-14)
10 moves rule for Poker

An interesting case... a Poker holdem game finished after only 6 moves (6 played by each player)! The winner was surprised to see that he didn't win any rating point, indeed there's a rule at FICGS (11.6) that says : "Games are not rated for the winner if less than 10 moves have been played by his opponent (most probably forfeit, silent withdrawal or obvious cheating)"

Another reason for this rule is that any player who lose to another one in less than 10 moves is most probably overrated so he should lose some points but his opponent may not win points, so I think that this rule may be ok for poker as well (and I'm not sure if playing all-in each time deserves to win some points :)), but I'd prefer to read some other opinions anyway.

What do you think?

Francisco Gramajo    (2010-06-15 01:44:15)
10 moves rule for Poker

My oponent CALLED ALL-IN with better cards than me in three times.

He had top pair 1st.
Better pair
and A-K
We are playing one to one poker (Heads Up) In the real life I saw many Heads Up matches end up in the 1st hand.
This Rule must be voided for poker.

Don Groves    (2010-06-17 01:25:53)
10 moves rule for Poker

I agree with Francisco on this. The length of a poker match should be decided by the cards that are dealt and the players' betting decisions with those cards. To make an artificial limit opposes this basic idea.

Poker is not like Chess and Go where games normally never end in less than ten moves. In those games, the ten move rule makes sense for the cases of silent withdrawals and players who never even begin a game.

Thibault de Vassal    (2010-06-17 01:50:33)
10 moves rule for Poker

I'm not sure, the temptation to try to cheat (well, in a certain measure of course, it would be harder above 2000 elo) may increase. Anyway, if players know the rules, it is quite easy to avoid this rare case, what do you think?

Garvin Gray    (2010-06-17 01:50:54)
10 moves rule for Poker

I also agree with not having the 10 move rule for poker. If players want to just keep going all in and lose in less than 10 moves, they should not be protected from losing rating points.

Having the knowledge that you could lose rating points regardless of the length of the game might deter some players from the all in practice described above.

Or, having the 10 move rule could serve as an encouragement to try going all in all the time as their rating is protected if they lose.

Thibault de Vassal    (2010-06-17 02:01:55)
10 moves rule for Poker

Okay, a solution could be to keep this rule only if the game is lost on time or resigned... which was not the case here.

Garvin Gray    (2010-06-17 06:14:11)
10 moves rule for Poker

Only for lost on time.

Thibault de Vassal    (2010-06-17 14:00:00)
10 moves rule for Poker

"Or, having the 10 move rule could serve as an encouragement to try going all in all the time as their rating is protected if they lose."

Their rating is NOT protected if they lose before the 10th move. This rule concerns the winner only.

Sophie Leclerc    (2010-06-18 02:58:26)


First of all, I am sorry for being not there and the worst friend possible, Yugi is very angry at me, (Ouch on me, but I earn it. )

This rules is a great one,in order to lose in less then ten move, someone has to go all-in very quickly, and it won't happen often, that very aggressive players always get A-K, A-Q, AA, in whose cases, all-in on the first turn could be justified, but imprudent. Tought, the rule is a low limit.





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