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Santos Agustin (2006-07-22 10:41:56) Bug in vacation section I d'ont understand why a player that has vacation can answer the moves on the board. If you visit for example Iecg then you can see that if you are on vacation then is blocked the option of make moves. Thibault de Vassal (2006-10-10 19:49:12) Opposite color bishops These endgames are much easier than same color bishops or rooks endings.. The bishop & king can block the opponent's pawns (1, 2, 3 or more) in most cases, and the bishop can be exchanged against one or two pawns... In most cases the bishop has only to make aleatory moves and it's a draw. There's a famous position with 8 pawns up... It's a draw too. With rooks, it all depends... Sometimes it's harder to get a draw with opposite color bishops than same color ones. See the 'endgames' Wikipedia article... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endgame#Bishops_on_opposite_colors Lionel Vidal (2006-11-22 13:51:55) Scrabble? Just to point out that scrabble, when played in duplicate, is 0% chance (but I vastly prefer the game as a duell, despite some luck, easily almost cancelled by a 10 games match, because of the various blocking and counting strategies involved :-)). Same thing for bridge BTW. Thibault de Vassal (2006-12-29 14:48:31) To be continued It has been discussed already, my conclusion was vacation had to be hard to use enough, in order to reduce influence on time controls, ie. a player shouldn't be able to take days to think more time when having difficulties in some games and cancel his 'holidays' after finding a solution... So it has to be discussed. Anyway, I'll add a message specifying vacation can't be canceled when taking days leave. Reminder : http://www.ficgs.com/membership.html#playing 11. 4. Time rules Any move in any game shall be played in a maximum period of 60 days, otherwise the game will be adjudicated on time. Time accumulated in a game can't exceed 100 days. Please don't call referee since you see your opponent's clock 'Out of time', you just have to wait a few hours a robot automatically adjuges the game. Please be aware that it's possible sometimes your internet provider or a point between the server and you may block the connection between the server and you. Even it's a rare thing, it's strongly recommended to always have several days left at your clock. No result will be reconsidered or time added due to such a technical problem. No time will be added due to any problem during a period less than 1 day long. It is possible to take a maximum of 30 days leave per year, called vacation. During this time, clocks are frozen and it is no more possible to play, in order to reduce the effects on time controls. Please note the time limit per move clock still runs during vacation. Take your days carefully, as it's not possible to take back or displace your leave dates. However you can add days leave. Achim Mueller (2007-04-21 09:59:26) One additional thought Take this sample of group 12, where we actually play a tournament with 4 participants. A player with the nominell highest rating can easily play on draw (using todays computer programs) in the one or two important games. You all probably know how difficult it is to win against such a blocking guy, no matter whether your "realistic" rating would be equal to his or 200 ELO points better. Ciao acepoint Thibault de Vassal (2007-04-21 10:13:26) One additional thought Blocking for draw is a bit losing already, I don't think it's a good strategy :) .. It is not so easy to get a draw against a good correspondence chess player, even with an army of computer chess programs, so don't trust it too much IMO. There are still many wins at a 2400+ level. Sandor Marton-Bardocz (2007-04-30 11:54:47) WCH Stage 1 rules Hi everyone! Let me introduce my self :-) I'm the highest rated player in the Wch stage 1 group 12 "the blocking guy" how Achim described me...whatever that means.. 1. there is no dead draw in my opinion likewise there is no absolute winning lines, openings in a chess game...And this is most true in our "centaur, human-engine tandem" era where lines are very "unstable" to say the least..so I don't believe that one can play for a absolute draw without any risk..avoiding complicated variations...the variations complexity is very relativ...line can be "cristal clear" for one and most complicated for other..In my opinion high rates of draws among world class cc player isn't because they all play for draws ...It's a tendency..like it was in otb chess among super gm-s...not long ago...until the "no draw alowed" rules were aplied...i don't want to speculate why this happens.. 2. If someone really want to win...then should play for a win ...no matter what regulations are applied for that particular tournament 3. I think that if someone might want to take a look to the game that I played against mister Deeb in the same tournament ...starting from the move 17 of mine...hardly can to argue that I wanted to play for draws just to achieve equal points to advance. I think that none of the engines can even "smell" the outcome of the game in that position after 17..d5!?...so...saying that nowdays it's easier to achieve draws because of engines....it's a little bit exaggerated The plan started with the move 17 ...d5!? that I have played it was an absolute rejection of a drawish (by repetation) position...and it was played just because i wanted to ...play.. not to advance in a higher stage of the tournament or something...even though the final outcome ( just in my opinion! and this isn't an absolute true by far) is probably ...still a draw. 4. The regulations regarding the advance in the higher stages of the tournament..now this are definitly arguable!there are pro's and con's...and always be. We don't have plausible answers for this kind of issues...because it's is a subjectiv matter. I'm not convinced too that "higher rated player advance"is the right regulation..few examples...just look for example ...Kramnik - Leko WCH . a. ..challenger and his fans can say.."hey he didn't beat him...why should remain WChampion?! He didn't proved that he is better!" b. ..Wchampion and his fans can say.."hey u want my crown?! than beat me, and take it! draw isn't enough!" The line of examples doesn't stops here ..i don't want to prolong this subject...No rule can satisfy both sides...polemics, flame are always present :-) 5. None can predict what will be the process in a group...If 2-3 or even 4 players changes they mind and doesn't really play..that's it, and none can't do a thing about that ...maybe some sanctions later...i don't believe it will do any good anyway... 6. In the game betwen me and Achim...I don't think that I choosed a draw line...I think that I had the initiative but probably it wasn't enough for a win, Achim overforced it ....which isn't a bad thing but probably not with the plan he had preferred. good day for everyone! Thibault de Vassal (2007-05-01 00:57:44) Achim's answer Achim Mueller asked to close his account, but he wanted to respond to Wolfgang & Sandor, here's his answer : "A last clarification: @Wolfgang Utesch: I wasn't aware of the "ELO-prefering" rule and I still don't find it here on the webpage. I opened a thread here in this forum and besides "then win all your games" or "in this case we ensure that the better player will qualify" there were no substantial arguments for this pretty unused and unknown rule (not that I agree with these two "arguments"!). Nonetheless I accepted the rule for this tournament. My decision to give up and leave this server is based on an easy calculation how many games I have to play here to get a - what I call - competitive rating that somehow equals the advantage, players with a nominal rating of 2200 - 2500 will have in every tournament where this rule exists. Because my time is limited my decision was to leave the server, that's all. I don't complain, I don't take anything as an excuse. It's simple as it is: I gave it a try here, became aware of the rule and decided this is the wrong place for me, ok? @Sandor Marton-Bardocz : I didn't say with any word that you are a blocking guy. This was a _general_ thesis how the player with the best rating can take an overwhelming advantage at this ruling. All good players (ask anyone in the region of 2400up at remoteschach, dbf, iecg or iccf) will confirm that it is most difficult to get 3.5 point out of 4 if at least 2 players know how to use computers and choose certain openings. Finally ... ficgs is a nice place to play, the interface is good and I assume Thibault put a lot of work into it. So, enjoy your games here, but also accept that from time to time there might be players that will leave because of certain issues. Ciao Achim" Rules (and chess WCH rules) - http://www.ficgs.com/membership.html Thanks Achim. Best wishes & have good games :) Thomas Tamayo (2007-07-10 00:05:19) I play Real Life games I mostly play IRL at clubs and tournaments. I need to drive about an hour for a quarterly tournament in Boston. I used to play on KGS, Dragon (PBM), and Little Golem (PBM)... they're all blocked at work now (no lunch playing) and I don't have a lot of free time at home. So I also play a lot at FICGS. Thibault de Vassal (2007-11-11 05:08:02) Number of games limitation Hello all. The current number of running games limitation before the program blocks the access to new standard or rapid tournaments is 60 (which doesn't mean the number of running games is limited to 60) After having experienced myself the "too many games" effects (more than 80 games, quite stressful and time consuming), and after a few general forfeits by players who probably reached the overdose, I decided to change some parameters to prevent such consequences. In a previous discussion, it had been concluded that it was up to each player to manage this and eventually to take the risk, but definitely too many correspondence games is not the same than playing chess all day. The number of running games limitation before the program blocks the access to new standard or rapid tournaments (but world championships cycles) will be 30, once more it doesn't mean the number of running games will be limited to 30... Of course faster tournaments will remain unlimited. It should accelerate running games, prevent general forfeits, and help us not to become chess machines, at least "correspondence chess machines" :) Best wishes, Thibault William Taylor (2007-11-11 16:59:49) Total games or type? Does the limit refer to total games or games of each type? For example, if you have 20 chess games and 20 go games running, will you be blocked from entering both new chess tournaments and new go tournaments, or will you be blocked from neither? Dinesh De Silva (2007-12-19 12:01:29) Re: My esteem gratitude to brave soldier Wolfgang for enlightening me on relevant matters. As thou spoke the truth, thou art bestowed with many titles, lands & fair maidens. For good measure, thou gets the chopping block too, free of charge." Benjamin Block (2008-04-02 18:08:20) sponsor? How is the sponsor of this tournament? Benjamin Block (2008-04-04 21:48:58) sponsor But how will pay the extra e-points? Benjamin Block (2008-04-21 15:29:49) Free rated tournament on iccf! Now you can play free in the 3rd WebChess Open Tournament. A.Players without ICCF ID or, B.Players with ICCF ID but who never played a rated game in the past. Read more here. http://www.iccf-webchess.com/Message.aspx?message=210 Benjamin Block (2008-04-23 17:51:07) Free bullet &lightning. Thanks it is really funny with free entery but bow we will get lots of messages in the chat? Benjamin Block (2008-04-28 16:20:51) How do you play correspondence? Hi, In bigchess i use my own brain because i don´t know if there is any computer i think around 1 min in the moves. In Go i am a beginer and i just think 10s. In corrspondence chess i let my computer think 0-1 min. How do you play corrspondence? Do you use Deep position analysis? Benjamin Block (2008-04-29 17:32:19) Is it a joke. No i don´t need more to get i play vs low rated player my future ELO is over 1700 so i don´t need more time. I will analysis more and more when i get higer rating. Benjamin Block (2008-05-03 21:14:21) How fast is you´re computer? I also prepare openings for at least one hour per day _everyday_ even when I have no game at all running in the opening phase. I built one of my computers specially for chess, an overclocked quad with efficient watercooling. I will go for an eight-processors one in the very next months. How many GHz do you have? Benjamin Block (2008-05-04 15:41:43) How fast is my computer. My computer is a AMD Sempron(tm)1.80 GHz. Benjamin Block (2008-05-18 16:33:33) New idea! Hi, I often use the search game button to learing from better player. But i often found a lot games that i don´t want games with lower rating then me. So what about more functioning. examlpe filter game under 2000. and filter game with draw and white in and so on.... Benjamin Block (2008-05-19 15:06:03) Nice! why have the GM class 2600+ in rating? Nobody in this site have that high rating? Benjamin Block (2008-05-20 17:23:43) New chess eninges champion when come the next eninges that beat current eninges champion? Benjamin Block (2008-05-20 17:38:15) answer Thibault strange message! Are you drunk? Benjamin Block (2008-05-21 18:26:44) The best move? The best move is very hard to say but i think it is dxc5 Rxc5 Benjamin Block (2008-05-22 16:03:24) Understand right? If i win a free prize tournament i get E-points. But if i want money i need to play in silver or gold tournaments? Benjamin Block (2008-05-24 16:22:36) New idea In tournamens if i understand right the player with the best points win but if some have the same the highest ELO win. Why not use the Sonneborn-Bergers (you add oppenents whole points and the half points if it is a draw.) If the Sonneborn-Bergers points is the same you can take the moste wins in the tourney and if they are the same you can use the highest elo win. Benjamin Block (2008-05-25 13:44:22) Draw! In playchess.com the computer play against each other the fastest computer+the biggest opningsbook win. But if both computer have the same book and the same fast computer it is draw. Benjamin Block (2008-05-25 14:54:33) Draw I can test with my fritz 11 and it will be draw. Benjamin Block (2008-05-25 15:34:04) Why? Why should it not be draw? it is like playing agains youre self. Benjamin Block (2008-05-25 15:38:13) New idea Hi, Thibault It is very nice with the filter game search. Is it possible to filter the game in "download all games". I want this because i download the games and put it in my openingsbook but i get bad games too. :( Have a nice week end! Benjamin Benjamin Block (2008-05-25 16:22:40) Black don´t win But black will not win? Only white? Benjamin Block (2008-05-25 19:03:50) very smart! Thanks a very smart idea. Benjamin Block (2008-05-26 17:12:58) Why can new player choose elo? Some players just choose ELO? Some players just take a very low rating even if they have a real high. Why not let the people choose a ELO only if they already have a ICCF rating or fide? Benjamin Block (2008-05-27 16:26:24) Provisional rating Yes but it will get a very big inflation. Benjamin Block (2008-05-27 17:58:30) Provisional rating But bad players how choose a high rating? They will give other players lots of rating. Benjamin Block (2008-06-03 17:20:27) Poker I have not seen any site with corr poker it would be funny? Or do you mean live time? Benjamin Block (2008-06-03 18:06:50) Correspondence Poker Only 30/games+1day. 40/10 is to slow. Benjamin Block (2008-06-06 18:59:39) Hydra vs Adams. What was the time control in this game? How could Adams know that his move was better when the computer? Benjamin Block (2008-06-08 08:51:48) oops It was a mistake. i mean Nickel vs Hydra. What was the time control in this corr game? I guess Nickel used a computer too. But how could he know that his move was better then the his computer? Benjamin Block (2008-06-14 10:56:40) Quote festival, part 4 You can´t win the best player. Because if you win him he is not the best. (Benjamin Block) Normajean Yates (2008-07-13 23:01:01) help - chat column missing I can see a white-background black-text chat column / frame on the right in some of my computer, but they are absent in others. Can someone please help? Windows XP, firefox 2, adblock plus [popups enables for ficgs] Normajean Yates (2008-07-14 03:52:29) meanwhile.. I will check whether my other computers have different settings for adblock plus etc. Or it is time to go to firefox 3!! I have adblockplus with a filter-updater on this machine but not on others; but i don't think ABP is the problem. Normajean Yates (2008-07-14 04:29:14) thanks thibault, it was adblock problem the adblock-filter-updater i was using was too strong :) As a courtesy, as long as I am a free memner I have allowed all ads that appear that appear on this site :) Normajean Yates (2008-07-14 05:27:33) firefox: adblockPlus 'disabling' to 'disable' adblockPlus for ficgs, [ie to 'whitelist' ficgs for ABP) just add this filter: @@http://www.ficgs.com (of course this works for any http:// or https://.) Benjamin Block (2008-07-16 14:32:33) New idea i have think about this a long time but now i think it is time to write it down. What do you think about make you´re own money price tournament. First you choose e-points fee 10 or 100. Then you choose how many games you want. Of course the site need to have limit so nobody take 100 games. And you choose the highest and lowest rating you want here the site need to take a limit. And the last thing you choose the time control. Here it will be fun if we can take more time control example 30/10 days,50/10 days and 60/10 days. What do you think? Benjamin Block (2008-07-17 19:30:56) Why more times an be good. First i am going to take a example. You will play on a high rated tournamnet on iccf. The fee is 10 euro. But it is too hard for you too win so you need help from this site. You take help from this site. If you lose on this site you will win on iccf. If you lose on iccf you will win here not smart? One more example. I play vs example you Thibault. You are white. You start with. 1.e4 i make the move on iccf. the player on iccf. move 1-.e5 and i make the move on this site and so on.... Benjamin Block (2008-07-30 12:34:34) Ficgs games. It works in chessbase light. You can download it free on. www.chessbase.com Phil Cook (2008-08-12 07:34:16) Morales Vs Cook [Event "Single game, E4EC"] [Site "http://gameknot.com/"] [Date "2008.04.22"] [Round "-"] [White "Morales, Rafael (rafafallo)"] [Black "Cook, Phil (Kiwi)"] [Result "0-1"] [WhiteElo "1078"] [BlackElo "1170"] [TimeControl "10/30"] 1. d4 {(D 00 Queeens Pawn,Chigorin varation) 1. d4 d5 2. Nc3 } d5 2. Nc3 {(D 00 Queeens Pawn,Chigorin varation) 1. d4 d5 2. Nc3 e6..not commonly played } e6 {(D 00 Queeens Pawn,Chigorin varation) 1. d4 d5 2. Nc3 e6..not commonly played} 3. a3 {3.blocking ..Bb4} h6 4. e4 a6 5. g3 dxe4 6. Nxe4 Nf6 {3. ....... h6 4. e4 a6 5. g3 dxe4 6. Nxe4 Nf6 attemps white into another exchange} 7. Bg2 {7.Bg2 defends } Nxe4 8. Bxe4 c6 9. c4 Be7 10. d5 {7. Nxe4 8. Bxe4 c6 9. c4 Be7 10. d5 (white here,trying to open the middle up) so black attacks} cxd5 11. cxd5 O-O 12. dxe6 {12.dxe6,,(black gives up a pawn or does he)} Qxd1+ 13. Kxd1 Rd8+ 14. Bd2 fxe6 {12. dxe6 Qxd1+ 13. Kxd1 Rd8+ 14. Bd2 fxe6(wins the pawn back,has white in disarray here)} 15. Nf3 Bf6 16. Rb1 Nd7 17. b4 Ne5 18. Ke2 Nxf3 19. Bxf3 {15. Nf3 Bf6 16. Rb1 Nd7 17. b4 Ne5 18. Ke2 Nxf3 19. Bxf3 (note whites black bishop)} Rb8 20. a4 b5 21. a5 Bb7 22. Rbc1 Bxf3+ {19. Bxf3 Rb8 20. a4 b5 21. a5 Bb7 22. Rbc1 Bxf3(white lost contol and game from here,yet plods on)} 23. Kxf3 Rxd2 {22. Rbc1 Bxf3+ 23. Kxf3 Rxd(loss of bishop)} 24. Rc6 Rd3+ 25. Ke4 Rbd8 26. Rxe6 Rd3d6 27. Rxd6 Rxd6 28. Rc1 Rd4+ 29. Kf5 Rxb4 30. Kg6 Rg4+ 31. Kf5 Rc4 32. Rd1 Rc5+ 33. Ke4 b4 34. Rb1 Rb5 35. Rb3 Bc3 36. f4 Rxa5 37. f5 Ra3 0-1 Benjamin Block (2008-08-14 17:35:28) What's the original name? I choose b. Because we don´t only have Go and chess we hace Bigchess too :) Benjamin Block (2008-08-14 17:45:03) Thibault not only good GO player. He is the highest rankad bigchess player and have 2464 in Chess and in Go 2332 and a good webmaster. I wonder how good he is in poker! Phil Cook (2008-08-16 10:54:51) (D 00 Queeens Pawn,Chigorin varation) Morales Vs Cook [Event "Single game, E4EC"] [Date "2008.04.22"] [Round "-"] [White "Morales, Rafael (rafafallo)"] [Black "Cook, Phil (Kiwi)"] [Result "0-1"] [WhiteElo "1078"] [BlackElo "1170"] [TimeControl "10/30"] 1. d4 {(D 00 Queeens Pawn,Chigorin varation) 1. d4 d5 2. Nc3 } d5 2. Nc3 {(D 00 Queeens Pawn,Chigorin varation) 1. d4 d5 2. Nc3 e6..not commonly played } e6 {(D 00 Queeens Pawn,Chigorin varation) 1. d4 d5 2. Nc3 e6..not commonly played} 3. a3 {3.blocking ..Bb4} h6 4. e4 a6 5. g3 dxe4 6. Nxe4 Nf6 {3. ....... h6 4. e4 a6 5. g3 dxe4 6. Nxe4 Nf6 attemps white into another exchange} 7. Bg2 {7.Bg2 defends } Nxe4 8. Bxe4 c6 9. c4 Be7 10. d5 {7. Nxe4 8. Bxe4 c6 9. c4 Be7 10. d5 (white here,trying to open the middle up) so black attacks} cxd5 11. cxd5 O-O 12. dxe6 {12.dxe6,,(black gives up a pawn or does he)} Qxd1+ 13. Kxd1 Rd8+ 14. Bd2 fxe6 {12. dxe6 Qxd1+ 13. Kxd1 Rd8+ 14. Bd2 fxe6(wins the pawn back,has white in disarray here)} 15. Nf3 Bf6 16. Rb1 Nd7 17. b4 Ne5 18. Ke2 Nxf3 19. Bxf3 {15. Nf3 Bf6 16. Rb1 Nd7 17. b4 Ne5 18. Ke2 Nxf3 19. Bxf3 (note whites black bishop)} Rb8 20. a4 b5 21. a5 Bb7 22. Rbc1 Bxf3+ {19. Bxf3 Rb8 20. a4 b5 21. a5 Bb7 22. Rbc1 Bxf3(white lost contol and game from here,yet plods on)} 23. Kxf3 Rxd2 {22. Rbc1 Bxf3+ 23. Kxf3 Rxd(loss of bishop)} 24. Rc6 Rd3+ 25. Ke4 Rbd8 26. Rxe6 Rd3d6 27. Rxd6 Rxd6 28. Rc1 Rd4+ 29. Kf5 Rxb4 30. Kg6 Rg4+ 31. Kf5 Rc4 32. Rd1 Rc5+ 33. Ke4 b4 34. Rb1 Rb5 35. Rb3 Bc3 36. f4 Rxa5 37. f5 Ra3 0-1 Benjamin Block (2008-08-18 08:52:18) Try to translate! I think it is something like that? Hello Xavier and first congratulations on your victory in the match which t'opposait the MI (ICCF) Gino Figlio [Peru] in the final candidates. You should avoid at all costs void in all parties, finally brought blacks t'ont chance, how do you explain this result? X avier: Hello, thank you for the congratulations. It is true that in case of zero for all parties, the regulation states Figlio winner in the event of a tie with victory (s) and defeat (s) I won the match. So I had to take risks in attacking and it is with blacks that I did it because I thought Gino, in these parts, expected without taking risks to ensure the void. -- Can you tell us about how you approached this match against Gino and his conduct as different phases of the game? X: It's pretty simple, in this match I was not at all favorite because with more than 200 ELO points FICGS to my disadvantage, and Gino titled Master International, with more than 2480 ELO ICCF point, I thought I n ' not resist going on 8 simultaneous games as a part everything is possible but on 8 parts ... it was for me a great challenge! In the course of the game I played diversity in my beginnings with white 4 parts 4 different strokes: 1.e4 1.d4 1.c4 1.Cf3. Gino did the same: 1.e4 1.d4 1.Cf3 1.Cc3. What made me doubt also because 1.Cc3 surprised me, I thought he had planned an early tonitruand and this is where I said that I should take risks with blacks. As the different phases of the game I assured the zero positions balanced for me concacrer deal has two parts, one with blanks and one with the black for at least make a difference in part to ensure victory. And ultimately it 3 victories me back, which seemed impossible given the quality of the game Gino played on this site to reach the final of the championship candidates. -- You have made during a championship course without fault, no losses to report, you also posters statistics stratospheric to 78% against an average elo to about 2200, what's your secret? X: My secret? I have no secret. If I had a secret I do not dévoilerais if I do win more! I think I got a little lucky because he is required by little I am not qualified to stage 3 (round-robin final) because there were 3 players equally and I had l 'advantage classifying the departure of this tournament as indicated by the regulation. As for my statistics, it is also thanks to the errors of my opponents who allowed me to win parts in balance. -- What do you think the system mid-ko, semi-all-round championship FICGS and its new départages in matches in 8 parties? What changes would it be? X: Very good question! The system mid-ko for me is a little too fast since a coup by day is overtime analyses to operate a complicated position, which is difficult when several parties in progress. Especially when you work. It is perhaps also through this pace that my opponents lack of time, made some uncertainty regarding postions or exploited my mistakes. But the pace has an advantage over the cadences ICCF which is 5 days a coup is that the parties had to 5 times less time! The départage new games to 8 parts is excellent, forcing the favorite to ensure all matches to nil win this duel and otherwise obtain an additional victory against the challenger is a very well thought out. The amendment that I could make is perhaps time management which is fast for a game system per server. Perhaps increase the clock starting 15 days, starting with 45 against 30 days at this time. And also the possibility of taking a vacation only on the tournament underway to manage other parts of the site. For example, take 7 days vacation on a chess tournament championship and be able to play a tournament Big Chess, Go or another chess tournament during the holidays. Being able to choose a start date of holidays in advance would also be appreciated. -- Why t'être invested in correspondence chess? T'apportent there are other rewards compared to traditional chess and blitz? X: I prefer chess match over time. For the classical chess is often play the weekend at a specific time and often on the move to make a tournament. The advantage for me, correspondence chess is that I can connect at any time to play my shots, which allows me, for example, making family meals on weekends and late at night to play a coup, which is not possible chess classics. -- You knew not to succumb to the temptation and you only play a very reasonable number of parties on the site throughout the championship, do you think nevertheless that the correspondence chess are addictive and at what point? Did they affect your everyday life? X: Yes! Limiting my number of games in progress is essential for me to try to have parts of quality rather than quantity. Have a lot of parts simultaneously is still something very difficult to manage! This is perhaps the key to my victory against Figlio, I watched its games in progress, it had nearly 90 on the site of the ICCF, it has been felt on his time devoted to analysis our parties on FICGS 8. On the everyday life impacts are family because it is true that I spend more time to analyze the parts and less time with my family, which is quite difficult for me. But when the results are there I do not regret! -- What do you think about the current position of engines for analysis (Rybka, Shredder, Fritz and others) in correspondence chess? What are the qualities you complementary core player by correspondence, now centaur with the machine for legs? X: The engines of analyses in chess matches are used by 95% of players ... Now we must adapt and learn to use these machines to calculate. Car simply play the best shot of Rybka 3, Fritz 12 or Hiarcs 12 mentally without thinking leads to zero if the opponent does the same or possibly lose if the opponent gives himself the trouble to consider using them as well. Knowing that when you're in the middle part of these programs give you often 4 to 5 strokes assessed similarly, and that is that we must choose the right time when it is not even necessarily cited by the analysis engine ... -- You get the Big Chess now on the site, curiosity or interest? What do you think of this strange version of chess? X: For curiosity and fun and I think Rybka 3 is not yet the Big Chess! This version is almost unprecedented I did not know this form of chess before therefore the one who invented this game was very well done! About I'm the one who asks you a question on the Big chess ... Is there possibility of castle with this game if so, how? (Editor's note: No, it is impossible to castle the Big Chess) -- And finally the question that everyone arises, especially Francis and Wolfgang disputing that the second final candidates, think you can defend your title next year? :) X: of course! I will defend the title! I would like if possible to know the timing and pace of the match. And I wish Francis and Wolfgang a beautiful final! I must honor in this competition which is well organized! -- The match should be able to start during the first week of January 2009, the pace will again 30 days and 1 additional day by coup. Thank you for your answers, and even congratulations for this excellent performance! X: Thank you! And see you! Bonne continuation to all and good parties! Benjamin Block (2008-08-18 10:44:42) Yes i used google translate. Yes there is some words how needs to change, but you understand the most, someone how can change the other words.? Benjamin Block (2008-08-19 16:16:49) Ok to help? Is it really ok to help people with out asking? Benjamin Block (2008-08-19 18:05:13) Yes it is white win! I can found win but it will take a lots of move maybe in around the 100 move white will win. Benjamin Block (2008-08-30 15:07:48) How good is the program vs the man? I want more test game in corr man vs computer. To know how high elo the computer have? It was a long time ago the Hydra played vs Nickel i want to see Rybka vs GM Nickel or some one other. Benjamin Block (2008-09-02 18:58:21) organize? On this site? Yes it would be funny. I think it will be hard to ask the rybka team?? Have they time? But if some one that we trust can use the computer 30+1 to don´t get to much electricity. How are inveted to play? The openingsbook Random? Benjamin Block (2008-09-12 15:55:58) Godd to know! Thanks! Ficgs rating is around the same as iccf? Benjamin Block (2008-09-13 14:01:21) Rybka vs 1900 man. Rybka will win that game if the player not are under rankad. But what about 2100 vs computer? Benjamin Block (2008-09-15 16:32:01) Asked Rybka! Why they not wanted in corr. The answer was. "Becase the man will also use rybka". Benjamin Block (2008-09-29 15:06:47) Copy game to fritz? If you mean in fritz openingsbook you can do this. You do this in frtitz 11 i just have that and fritz 6 Start the program fritz 11 Press "Edit" Press "openingsbook" and "Improtgames..." Now you choose the databas you want to use in this question you want the game from ficgs. I don´t rember the file name. But i think you can found it. Benjamin Block (2008-09-30 19:32:15) Download all ficgs.com games! Press on "Search games" (in left) Now you can see in the top your name under there you can see Chess and "ALL games (PGN)" /Benjamin Benjamin Block (2008-10-08 18:11:30) Why a mobile? A mobile can never run that fast like a computer. And not even that big openingsbook and endtable? Why not test a other computer? Anyone know where i can found the game? Want to see how fast the mobile lose? Benjamin Block (2008-10-29 17:17:51) 4 Board Yes it works but you get very confused. a b c d e f g h ,a b c d e f.... And if you look on the board it don´t have, i j... Buy a bruch too :) Benjamin Block (2008-10-30 14:14:34) Extrem fast time. The fastest time control i ever seen in corr is 7 days+0 on a whole game. The game chould not be more then 14 days. But it is too fast for me. I did test it. It is more a time game you need to play on the day and night. 30+0 Did i also play it was hard but it did work if the games did not get over 100 moves. 30+1 is a good time control! But if you want a max time control it is better with the other. Normajean Yates (2008-10-30 15:08:01) ok now: prob was ABP or popup-block Thanks thibault! The problem was simple: recently firefox had crashed so I had to reinstall it, and also I reinstalled plugins including adblock plus. But I forgot to : make exception in adblock plus for ficgs; also I forgot to allow popups for ficgs. I just did that, and it is fine now! Benjamin Block (2008-11-01 10:05:59) Looks easy to draw. Looks easy too draw. And it don´t need any deep play. How many possible position is that in the game? I think the computer can fix it easy. 300 000 000 poisitons only on 3x3. Not much a computer fix it on 1 sekund. Normajean Yates (2008-11-01 23:43:03) Benjamin Block - I agree It seems there is some HP product that offers 5x5 chess of various kinds including the one I describled - it is called 'Gardner minichess' now. English-wikipedia 'minichess' entry has a link to that - and in a discussion forum on that HP thing I found - "recent play suggests that Gardner minichess is a draw". So the first decent engine for it would finish it, it seems, as thibault said earlier in this thread... Someone modify crafty for 5x5 and check - yawn - I am toooo lazy --- plus crafty [and all later closed source engines I suppose] are too strongly low-level optimised for 8x8 chess --- writing an engine from scratch? Well I know the seven steps [they are/were on an internet in a nice article] --- but I have retired from writing code --- written enough for three lifetimes; no more programming for me. *Proving* that Gardner-minichess is a draw would be more difficult -- 20-piece tablebases! (okay, in a much smaller space) - that's for the universities --- they have to do something to give out M.S.'s and Ph.D.s - so let them do it :) [they did it with draughts <called checkers in the USA> - it is solved ie proven to be a draw -- let them try Gardner-minichess now :)] 3x3 - as I said there are complate tablebases now including for positions with pawns on first rank -- so it is very-strongly solved [i.e. given *any* position, the result and the best play for that result are known - in fact online accessible -- instant results of course... you'll find the link on eng-wikipedia -- I have accessed it [3x3 chess site] before but yesteday it seemed to be down - the old link was http://kd.lab.nig.ac.jp/3x3-chess/ but it is broken now... Benjamin Block (2008-11-02 17:13:30) We can try I thinked a bit today. Computer have a bit problem (closed positions.) And humen are long from cleared it. Some cool positons. I played some games vs my self. And it was very funny :UP: The computer will not fix it very fast. First we need to make a openingsbook before the computer can fix the game. Why not test? Benjamin Block (2008-11-05 15:14:48) Build openingsbook in fritz 11. 1.You need to extract the files first. 2.Start the program fritz 11. 3.Press edit->Openingsbook->Import games. 4.Choose the extracktet files. 5.Take 1-????? if you want all. ????=the highest nummber. (you get it in the start. 6.Choose how many moves you want in every game. MAX 100. 7.Press "ok". You can say thanks by giving me the links you download the games. Benjamin Block (2008-11-05 16:40:58) I think i see. What you want is a new openingsbook with nothing! 1.Press File->New->Openingsbook... (skift+ctrl+alt+F11) 2.Choose a good name. 3.Start on 3 in the other message. 4.Please answer my question where i can download the games. Benjamin Block (2008-11-06 17:49:39) You mean this site? If you mean this site the answer is no. But you can filter the games in fritz. 1.Start fritz. 2.Press File->Open->Databas (F12) 3.Press File->Open->Databas (ctrl+o)and choose file with the games you want to filter. 4.Now you have the games. Press Edit->Filter games... (ctrl+f) 5.Now you can choose every things you want ;) If you don´t understand i can send you one step by step on you´re e-mail. Good luck and have fun Benjamin Block (2008-11-19 16:21:10) YES!! It will be funny! There is no computer in Poker? Benjamin Block (2008-11-19 16:45:12) Limit poker? Is it limit poker? If not how do i change how much i want to bet. Thibault de Vassal (2008-11-19 17:24:00) No poker emails Thanks for the good suggestion, Michel. After a while, I decided to block email notification for Poker Holdem games, but for the start of the games (updated). There are 269 results for Block in wikichess. Thibault de Vassal (2407) Nf3 The Réti Opening (also called the King's Knight Opening) is a chess opening characterized by the opening move 1.Nf3 It is named after Richard Réti, a Czechoslovakian chess player who used it to defeat the world champion José Raúl Capablanca in 1924. According to ChessBase, out of the twenty possible opening moves, 1.Nf3 ranks third in popularity. It develops the knight to a good square and prepares for a quick castling. White maintains flexibility by not committing to a particular central pawn structure, while waiting to see what Black will do. The slight drawback to the move is that it blocks the f-pawn. This is not a problem if White does not intend to move it in the near future, but it rules out the possibility of playing systems with f3 and Nge2, which is a fairly popular setup against the King's Indian. Usually 1.Nf3 will transpose into an opening with 1.d4, such as the King's Indian or the Queen's Gambit. If White follows up with an early c4 a transposition to the English Opening may be reached. Even the Sicilian Defense may be reached if the game opens 1.Nf3 c5 2.e4. According to Chessbase, white chances are about 57% ============ Contributors : Thibault de Vassal Thibault de Vassal (2407) e4 e5 Bc4 The Bishop's Opening is one of the oldest openings to be analyzed; it was studied by Lucena and Ruy Lopez. Later it was played by Philidor. Larsen was one of the few grandmasters to play it often, after first using it at the 1964 Interzonal Tournament. Although the Bishop's Opening is uncommon today, it has been used occasionally as a surprise by players such as Kasparov and Nunn. White attacks Black's f7-square and prevents Black from advancing his d-pawn to d5. By ignoring the beginner's rule, "develop knights before bishops", White leaves his f-pawn unblocked allowing the possibility of playing f4. This gives the Bishop's Opening an affinity to the King's Gambit and the Vienna Game, two openings that share this characteristic. In fact, the Bishop's Opening can transpose into the King's Gambit or the Vienna Game, and transpositions into Giuoco Piano and Two Knights Defense and other openings are also possible. In particular, White should remain alert for any chance to transpose into a favorable variation of the King's Gambit, but with careful play Black can avoid this danger. According to Chessbase, white chances are about 55% ============ Contributors : Thibault de Vassal Sebastien Marez (2377) d4 d5 c4 c6 The Slav is one of the primary defenses to the Queen's Gambit. Although it was analyzed as early as 1590, it wasn't until the 1920s that it started to be explored extensively. Many masters of Slavic descent helped develop the theory of this opening, including Alapin, Alekhine, Bogoljubov, and Vidmar. The Slav received an exhaustive test during the two Alekhine–Euwe World Championship matches in 1935 and 1937. Played by 11 of the first 13 world champions, this defense was particularly favored by Euwe, Botvinnik, and Smyslov. More recently the Slav has been adopted by Anand, Ivanchuk, Lautier, Short, and other top grandmasters. Today the theory of the Slav is very extensive and well developed. Black faces three major problems in many variations of the Queen's Gambit Declined (QGD). - Development of the Black queen bishop is difficult, as it is often blocked by ...e6. - The pawn structure offers White targets, especially the possibility of a minority attack on the queenside in the Exchange variation of the QGD. - White often plays Bg5 to pin the black king knight on f6 against the black queen, and unpinning it is awkward for Black. The Slav addresses all of these problems. Black's queen bishop is unblocked, the pawn structure remains balanced, and the move Bg5 is not yet threatening as the unmoved black pawn on e7 prevents the pin. Also, if Black later takes the gambit pawn with ...dxc4, the support provided by the pawn on c6 allows ...b5 which may threaten to keep the gambit pawn or to drive away a white piece that has captured it, gaining Black a tempo for queenside expansion. On the other side, Black usually won't be able to develop the queen bishop without first giving up the center with ...dxc4, and moving this bishop may leave the Black queenside weak. White will try to dominate the center with e2-e4. According to Chessbase, Black chances are about 43% ============ Contributors : Thibault de Vassal, Sebastien Marez Benjamin Block (1800) e4 c5 Nf3 d6 d4 cxd4 Nxd4 Nf6 simultaneously, it develops the knight and threatens the e-pawn. ============ Contributors : Julien Coll, Benjamin Block Thibault de Vassal (2407) e4 Nc6 The Nimzowitsch or Fischer Defense. This is a somewhat unusual chess opening and an example of hypermodern chess where Black invites White to occupy the centre of the board at an early stage with pawns. Black's intent is to block or otherwise restrain White's central pawns and, if allowed to do so by inaccurate play by White, eventually undermine the White pawn center by well-timed pawn advances of his own or by attacking the White pieces defending the centre. ============ Contributors : Dirk Jan Van Dijl, Thibault de Vassal Bruno Bragato (1500) e4 e6 d4 d5 Nd2 The Tarrasch Variation is named after Siegbert Tarrasch. This move was particularly popular during the late 1970s and early 1980s when Anatoly Karpov used it to great effect. It is still played today by players seeking a small, safe advantage. The move differs from 3.Nc3 in several respects: it doesn't block the path of White's c pawn, which means he can play c3 at some stage to support the d4 pawn; and it avoids the Winawer Variation because 3...Bb4 can be met with 4.c3 when Black has wasted a move (he has to retreat his bishop). ============ Contributors : Dirk Jan Van Dijl, Bruno Bragato Ulrich Imbeck (1200) b3 e5 Developing and Blockading the coming Lb2. ============ Contributors : Ulrich Imbeck Ron Keyston (1522) e4 e5 d4 exd4 c3 dxc3 Bc4 cxb2 Bxb2 d5 exd5 This is not as good as Bxd5 as it blocks White's light-squared bishop and allows Black to catch up in development rather easily. ============ Contributors : Ron Keyston Benjamin Block (1397) e4 e5 Nf3 f5 exf5 My favourite with white. (: ============ Contributors : Ilmars Cirulis, Benjamin Block Kieran Child (1600) Nf3 Nf6 Nc3 Reti - Van Geet A hypermodern move and one that refuses to confirm central pawn structure. However, after blocking the f pawn, this block of the c pawn can be considered weak and restrictive. If black plays d5 and c5, he can often get a good game. ChessBase considers this a 49% win for white - lower than the average opening. ============ Contributors : Kieran Child Terry Godat (2036) e4 e5 f4 Nf6 Wade defence While looking tactically sharp, this move offers black few chances, and blocks off the queen's path to h4. If white transposes this with Nc3 into the vienna gambit, or Bc4 into the greco gambit, black should be ok. But if white plays fxe5 then Nf3, black's knight looks very out of position. Chessbase considers this a 42% win for black. ============ Contributors : Kieran Child, Terry Godat I have played this move often in blitz games and rarely had much trouble equalizing. Fischer got little if any advantage against Wade. Kieran Child (1600) e4 e5 f4 Qf6 Norwald variation An uncommon response as it brings out the queen (much too early) and blocks the g8 knight, but it does put black clear material up and with no obvious tactical flaws. Chessbase considers this a 38% win for black, but it should be noted that it mostly just gets played experimentally by players expecting a loss. ============ Contributors : Kieran Child Kieran Child (1600) Nf3 d5 e4 dxe4 Ng5 Nf6 Bc4 Blocking the c8 bishop and letting the queen get to e2 to win back the pawn. ============ Contributors : Kieran Child Kieran Child (1600) e4 e5 d4 Qh4 Qd3 Deals with the threat, but blocks in the f1 bishop and doesn't do much in the way of development. If white can play Nf3 soon, it could be all over for black. ============ Contributors : Kieran Child Gavin Wilson (1400) e4 e6 d4 f5 e5 Ne7 c4 c5 Be3 cxd4 Bxd4 Nbc6 Nf3 Ng6 a3 Qc7 Nc3 Ngxe5 Nxe5 Nxe5 Nb5 Qb8 Qh5+ g6 Qe2 Increases the pressure on Ne5 but blocks his light-squared bishop. ============ Contributors : Gavin Wilson Gavin Wilson (1400) e4 e6 d4 f5 exf5 exf5 Nf3 Be7 c4 Nf6 Ne5 d6 Nf3 O-O Nc3 Nc6 Bd3 Nb4 Bb1 c6 a3 Na6 O-O d5 Ne5 Nc7 c5 Ne4 Ne2 Ne6 A mistake, because it blocks the Bc8 protection of f5. ============ Contributors : Gavin Wilson Gavin Wilson (1400) e4 e6 d4 f5 exf5 Nf6 fxe6 Bd6 Exciting if you like quick development at the expense of a pawn or two and a blocked d-pawn. ============ Contributors : Gavin Wilson Gavin Wilson (1400) e4 e6 d4 f5 Bd3 fxe4 Bxe4 Nf6 Bg5 d5 Bf3 This line of the Kingston Defence seems to have no merit. It blocks the knight from its natural f3 square, and it even blocks the Queen's diagonal move to the kingside. Fritz rates the position about 0.09. ============ Contributors : Gavin Wilson Gavin Wilson (1400) e4 e6 d4 f5 e5 Ne7 g4 fxg4 Qxg4 c5 Be3 cxd4 Bxd4 Naturally, but is now blocked on the a1-h8 diagonal by its own pawn. ============ Contributors : Gavin Wilson Gavin Wilson (1400) e4 e6 d4 f5 exf5 exf5 Nc3 d5 Qh5+ g6 Qe2+ Retreats to another checking position. Looks potentially bad because it blocks the light-squared bishop. ============ Contributors : Gavin Wilson Gavin Wilson (1400) e4 e6 d4 f5 exf5 exf5 Bd3 Nc6 Ne2 d5 c4 Nb4 O-O Nf6 Bg5 Nxd3 Qxd3 h6 Bxf6 Qxf6 cxd5 Bd7 Nbc3 O-O-O a4 a6 Blocking b5. ============ Contributors : Gavin Wilson Gavin Wilson (1400) e4 e6 d4 f5 exf5 exf5 Bd3 Nc6 Ne2 d5 c4 Nb4 O-O Nf6 Bg5 Nxd3 Qxd3 h6 Bxf6 Qxf6 cxd5 Bd7 Nbc3 O-O-O a4 a6 Rfe1 Bd6 Qc4 The queen's position on d3 was blocked by his own pawns. ============ Contributors : Gavin Wilson Gavin Wilson (1400) e4 e6 d4 f5 e5 Ne7 Bg5 c5 dxc5 Qa5+ c3 Qxc5 Nf3 Nbc6 A very natural move, but it does leave the black queen ahead of her troops, and potentially blocked from retreating. ============ Contributors : Gavin Wilson Kostis Megalios (1400) d4 d5 Nc3 Developing a knight and defending e4-square. This move is not very good, because it blocks the c pawn and white can't fight for the center by playing c4. ============ Contributors : June Lorena, Kostis Megalios Benjamin Block (1419) d4 d5 Nf3 c6 Played by the computer Deep blue round 6 vs Garry Kasparov 1996. ============ Contributors : Benjamin Block Mark Hailes (1800) d4 Nf6 c4 e6 Nc3 Bb4 e3 b6 Bd3 Bb7 Nf3 White develops the knight and at the same time blocks the attack of black's bishop on the g2 pawn ============ Contributors : Mark Hailes Benjamin Block (1397) e4 c6 d4 d5 Nc3 dxe4 Nxe4 Nd7 Ng5 Played by deep blue vs Garry Kasparov 1997 1-0. ============ Contributors : Benjamin Block Benjamin Block (1397) f3 e5 g4 Why do you help black to win? ============ Contributors : Benjamin Block Benjamin Block (1397) d4 Nf6 c4 e6 Nf3 b6 g3 Bb4+ !? ============ Contributors : Benjamin Block Benjamin Block (1397) d4 Nf6 c4 e6 Nf3 b6 g3 Ba6 b3 d5 !? ============ Contributors : Benjamin Block Yugi Inving (1280) d4 Nf6 Nf3 d5 Nc3 Nc6 e3 g6 Black prepare a fiancetto and since the diagonal c1-h6 is blocked by the pawn on e3, white won't be able to profite of black weakness. ============ Contributors : Yugi Inving Benjamin Block (1397) e4 e5 Nf3 Nc6 Bc4 Bc5 O-O Nf6 d3 d6 Bg5 Don´t looks like a bad move but it is. ============ Contributors : Benjamin Block Benjamin Block (1397) e4 e5 Nf3 Nc6 Bc4 Bc5 O-O Nf6 d3 d6 Bg5 h6 Bxf6 gxf6 Open the way g8-g1. ============ Contributors : Benjamin Block Benjamin Block (1397) e4 e5 Nf3 Nc6 Bc4 Bc5 O-O Nf6 d3 d6 Bg5 h6 Bh4 g5 Bg3 h5 Maybe the best move. ============ Contributors : Benjamin Block Benjamin Block (1397) e4 e5 Nf3 Nc6 Bc4 Bc5 O-O Nf6 d3 d6 Bg5 h6 Bh4 g5 Bg3 h5 Nxg5 h4 Nxf7 White is happy to fork d8 and h8. But black have a plan. ============ Contributors : Benjamin Block Benjamin Block (1397) e4 e5 Nf3 Nc6 Bc4 Bc5 O-O Nf6 d3 d6 Bg5 h6 Bh4 g5 Bg3 h5 Nxg5 h4 Nxf7 hxg3 !! Just so cool move. ============ Contributors : Benjamin Block Benjamin Block (1397) e4 e5 Nf3 Nc6 Bc4 Bc5 O-O Nf6 d3 d6 Bg5 h6 Bh4 g5 Bg3 h5 Nxg5 h4 Nxf7 hxg3 Nxd8 White take the queen but don´t know that he/she will lose. ============ Contributors : Benjamin Block Benjamin Block (1397) e4 e5 Nf3 Nc6 Bc4 Bc5 O-O Nf6 d3 d6 Bg5 h6 Bh4 g5 Bg3 h5 Nxg5 h4 Nxf7 hxg3 Nxd8 Bg4 Qd2 Nd4 Nc3 Nf3+ gxf3 Bxf3 h4 Rxh4 And white can´t stop the mate on Rh1 ============ Contributors : Benjamin Block Benjamin Block (1711) e4 c6 d4 d5 Nc3 dxe4 Nxe4 Nd7 Qe2 Ndf6 Black stop the mate on d6 ============ Contributors : Benjamin Block Benjamin Block (1711) d4 Nf6 c4 g6 Nc3 d5 cxd5 Nxd5 e4 Nxc3 bxc3 Bg7 Bc4 c5 Ne2 Nc6 Be3 O-O O-O Bg4 f3 Na5 Bd3 cxd4 cxd4 Be6 d5 Bxa1 Qxa1 f6 Save the king from Bh6. If black did not played f6. White could play Bh6 and take the rook or Mate on Qg7. ============ Contributors : Benjamin Block Benjamin Block (1711) d4 Nf6 c4 g6 Nc3 d5 cxd5 Nxd5 e4 Nxc3 bxc3 Bg7 Bc4 c5 Ne2 Nc6 Be3 O-O O-O Bg4 f3 Na5 Bd3 cxd4 cxd4 Be6 d5 Bxa1 Qxa1 f6 Bh6 Re8 Save the Rook ============ Contributors : Benjamin Block Benjamin Block (1711) d4 Nf6 c4 g6 Nc3 d5 cxd5 Nxd5 e4 Nxc3 bxc3 Bg7 Bc4 c5 Ne2 Nc6 Be3 O-O O-O Bg4 f3 Na5 Bd3 cxd4 cxd4 Be6 d5 Bxa1 Qxa1 f6 Bh6 Re8 Kh1 Save the king from the open way b6 to g1 ============ Contributors : Benjamin Block Benjamin Block (1711) d4 Nf6 c4 g6 Nc3 d5 cxd5 Nxd5 e4 Nxc3 bxc3 Bg7 Bc4 c5 Ne2 Nc6 Be3 O-O O-O Bg4 f3 Na5 Bd3 cxd4 cxd4 Be6 d5 Bxa1 Qxa1 f6 Bh6 Re8 Kh1 Rc8 Control the c line. ============ Contributors : Benjamin Block Normajean Yates (1946) e4 e5 f4 Qh4+ g3 Qe7 This strange-looking move, where black blocks its own b1-Bishop, is nevertheless probably the best! The point of course is to maintain pressure on the e-file as well d1-h4 diagonal. The '4.fxe5 d6!' continuation illustrates this. ============ Contributors : Normajean Yates ... or search for Block in FICGS via Google |