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Back to forum Thibault de Vassal (2006-04-08 14:49:23) FICGS titles As you may have read on TCCMB forum, ICCF officials reacted when they learnt about FICGS titles. My idea was it first to be informative (titles from ICCF/IECG/FIDE), because I think players like to know who they play against, particularly if their opponents are titled. It seems obvious to me that FICGS titles are FICGS ones, not "official", not ICCF or FIDE.. even if words are quite the same (titles are FICGS IM, not IM). I would like to know what you think about that. Do you think FICGS titles should be renamed (ie. FEM, FIM, FSM, FGM), or do you think there's no possible confusion between FIDE/ICCF/IECG/FICGS titles ? This is an interesting debate I invite you to follow : http://pub11.bravenet.com/forum/924995304/fetch/552912/ Thank you for your advices. Thibault de Vassal (2006-04-11 14:54:36) FICGS titles Hello to all. I would like to have players opinion ! As you may have noticed, I already changed FICGS titles to FEM, FIM, FSM, FGM. (not titles obtained elsewhere) Do you agree with titles appearing this way ? I thought several other ways : EFM, IFM, SFM, GFM, or only to mention norms obtained ! (not titles) At last, of course, we can suppress definitely titles from FICGS, a bad idea in my opinion. What do you think about that ? Thank you in advance for your responses. Dinesh De Silva (2006-04-12 07:24:22) TITLES I think the answer is obvious. FICGS titles should be named FICGS EM, FICGS IM etc, so that it's clear from where the titles are got from. By putting the organization's name in front of the title this way, I don't see any problems. I think the majority are bound to agree, and there won't be any sorta arguments with other organizations. After all, the world is a very big place.... there's enough room for everybody! I find FICGS a very friendly place. Also, organizations like IECG, ICCF, LIAPE etc. are very hardworking, dedicated organizations too, and I enjoy playing in them too. My thanks to you all. Dinesh De Silva (2006-04-12 12:27:56) FEM,FIM,FSM,FGM I saw the rating list, with the title changes....Interesting idea......But what will the titles be called when some of us eventually gain FICGS titles? Thibault de Vassal (2006-09-01 17:37:52) FICGS titles update This site will work by itself soon... :) Thanks Benjamin. I'll post soon again about the council/staff, moderators etc.. Feel free to tell me if you're interested ;) About titles, I'll add that players who will get a FICGS title could probably have one at ICCF, so they're invited to try... The first norms calculation just occured. Here are the result(s) : FICGS__CHESS__RAPID_M__000001 : Zubac, Marius EM=1,IM=1 Dinesh De Silva (2006-09-02 11:39:12) Re: FICGS titles update........... As a fellow correspondence chess player, let me take this opportunity to CONGRATULATE Marius Zubac for achieving the title norms. Well done! Thibault de Vassal (2007-01-21 13:59:06) FICGS titles Hello Spiros. FEM, FIM, FSM, FGM are titles awarded by FICGS. Requirements are not the same as in ICCF but it quite looks like : ICCF titles are EM (Email Master), IM (International Master), SM (Senior Master), GM (Gran Master). Note : In rating list, a GM player could be a FIDE GM or ICCF GM... See rules (11.7 - 11.8) : http://www.ficgs.com/membership.html#rating Best wishes. Thibault de Vassal (2008-01-05 15:16:17) Titles definitions Hello Hornung, everything about FICGS titles is here : http://www.ficgs.com/membership.html#titles Jason Repa (2008-06-09 08:12:28) Brackets - both Chess and Go " -- allow the winner of a tournament to qualify for the next higher classification regardless of his/her rating." This idea seems interesting, on the surface, but on closer inspection it's not feasible. The FICGS tournament categories are dependent on certain rating averages that determine the level of points required in order to achieve norms for various FICGS titles, starting at class "M" and higher. Throwing in lower rated players would dilute the rating average of the entire tournament. It's also unfair to the rest of the players in that tournament who are legitimately qualified to be there. They are forced to play a lower rated opponent artificially and now THEY are at a big disadvantage in their attempt to gain the points required to get to the next level. Additionally, I don't think groves thought about this long enough to realize that there is no guarantee that each "A" level tournament will end precisely as each "M" level tournament does. What if two "A" level events are completed in the time it takes for one "M" level event to finish, which isn't an unreasonable possibility as the "M" level players generally take the game more seriously and tend to use their time more? Should we then throw in TWO players into an "M" level event that don't deserve to be there? At any rate, it's a poor idea. If someone is winning tournaments, they're definitely gaining rating points and will qualify legitimately for the next rating level soon enough.
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