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Thibault de Vassal (2006-04-08 13:45:15)
Inaugural match : Big chess
Hello to all.
The inaugural Big chess game (on the 16x16 board) restarts. As it was a bit hard to organize such a game between 2 GM, the two players finally are myself and... you :)
This is is 'priority game', just for fun. If you want to play a move just connect with the guest/guest account, if it is 'guest' turn, you can play...
http://www.ficgs.com/game_1.html
Have a good big chess game :)
Thibault de Vassal (2006-05-29 16:56:44)
Big chess
A word about 'big chess' : This is my view of anti-computer chess variant, as Chess 960 is now played by programs (Chessbase can manage it too). I thought about it in the Go/Weiqi way, avoiding random start positions (thus theory is still possible), just increasing incredibly the number of possible good moves...
Heinz-Georg Lehnhoff (2006-05-29 20:47:01)
Big chess
The middlegame could be a challenge, particularly if you have no board to test the consequences of your move. And what do you think about an endgame with 12 pawns and 3 rook or 5 knights on each side? What are the values of the pieces? There is much to investigate there. Perhaps I should write a computer program ... (just a joke)
David Grosdemange (2006-05-30 00:28:03)
particularities of big chess ^^
we must take care about the possible endings ^^ for instance , knight+bishop can't win in big chess ^^ whereas 2 bishops (opposite coloured) still can win ^^ about a value , i think something like : pawn : 1 knight : 2,5 bishop : 4 rook : 6 queen : 11
Thibault de Vassal (2006-05-30 00:53:26)
Big chess, theory
Hmm... Interesting ! What about 4 bishops (same color) ? ^^
I think it's really quantum... The relative values may change incredibly according to the position (especially exchanges) and game progress...
Thibault de Vassal (2006-05-30 01:19:41)
Depends...
... obviously more in big chess :)
Actually I already love this game... very exciting ! So many strategies... Just look at this position - http://www.ficgs.com/game_1.html
Now I have to work on the board (size / coordinates) and tournament formula before to offer it here.
Thibault de Vassal (2006-06-02 16:52:40)
Famous quotes about FICGS :-)
"Who needs drugs and alcohol if he can play big chess on FICGS ?" (HG. L.)
Sorry to the author, I couldn't resist ;)
Thibault de Vassal (2006-06-19 16:19:58)
Go is not a drawn game...
Not for tomorrow, hopefully !
But programs are killing chess little by little for sure... Maybe then we'll play Go, which has the advantage not to be a drawn game (we even don't know the result for sure with a 7.5 komi)... or maybe we'll play big chess :)
Heinz-Georg Lehnhoff (2006-07-15 17:40:05)
Big chess
Hi Thibault!
No time to continue the game?
Thibault de Vassal (2006-07-15 17:51:39)
Big chess
Hello Heinz-Georg.
I'll play my next moves soon... That's right, no time enough and many chess & Go games to play. But I keep a look at my clock ;)
Thibault de Vassal (2006-07-21 12:26:07)
Big chess strategy
This game is pure madness.
Much more tactical than I thought... ('cause of Heinz-Georg strategy so far, obviously)
Anyway, I would be curious to see computers playing. (I just played my move... a surprising one undoubtly ;))
Thibault de Vassal (2006-09-06 17:08:56)
Other games on FICGS ?
Hello to all.
Just wondering... after Chess, Chess 960, Go and Big Chess (soon available, as the graphical interface works better now) what other games you'd like to see here in the future ?
FICGS is firstly a correspondence chess server, without any doubt, but that's great to see chess players discovering Go game this way.
I have been told about Chinese Chess (Xiangqi), Shogi, Blokus.. Maybe not Draughts, as it is a solved game now.
Any ideas ?
Lionel Vidal (2006-09-08 16:58:11)
ChuShogi would get my vote.
ChuShogi is by far my favorite chess-like game: as deep as Go strategically, more profound than chess tactically (at least on par with big chess) and great fun to play. Like Go a very elaborate handicap system does exist.
Its main drawback is that, just like go, you have to invest some time to learn it to fully appreciate the game: chess, xianqi or even shogi are maybe more immediately grasped by beginners while in ChuShogi or in Go, it may take a few games (or more likely many games) before you realise what you should strive to do or not to do, and what that &#@@# game is all about :-)
Mladen Jankovic (2006-09-11 17:18:34)
Big chess name
The name of Big chess seems to be taken by an older variant, see: http://www.chessvariants.org/large.dir/big-chess.html
Thibault de Vassal (2006-09-11 17:44:05)
Big chess name
There are probably other chess variants called 'Big Chess'. I remember another one on a big board with many pieces and start positions decided by both players, putting pieces on their half board... Anyway, this variant looks strange to me.
Dinesh De Silva (2006-09-11 18:38:45)
Re: Big Chess name.........
Historically speaking, it was a choice of naming such a variant of chess as either FAT CHESS, BULKY CHESS, LARGE CHESS, GIGANTIC CHESS, HUGE CHESS, OH- MY-GOSH! CHESS or BIG CHESS. Finally, it must have been decided that BIG CHESS was the most suitable, politically correct/diplomatic name.
Mladen Jankovic (2006-09-11 19:38:23)
Big chess name
Well, I was thinking, maybe you should formaly call your variant FICGS big chess, to avoid confusion. with that and other variants. Anyway, my opinion on Big chess is somewhat split.
Thibault de Vassal (2006-10-30 18:13:36)
Big chess "birthday" tournament !
FICGS now counts more than 1000 members :)
The display of Big Chess games has just been improved : Last move marked, coordinates, speed, bugs fixed... So it may be funny to see more games !!
A special tournament will start soon, if you want to enter it, just post "I'm in." (or something like that :)) in this thread. The first 7 players will be in.
The tournament will be there :
http://www.ficgs.com/tournament_FICGS__BIG_CHESS__THOUSAND_MEMBERS_EVENT.html
Games unrated, time control is 30 days + 1 day / move... 7 players -> 6 games per player (big challenge).
Reminder : To see what Big Chess is, see the Inaugural match game...
http://www.ficgs.com/tournament_FICGS__BIG_CHESS__INAUGURAL_MATCH.html
100% human chess guaranteed, no chess engines & databases :)
Thibault de Vassal (2006-10-30 18:30:02)
Big chess birthday tournament !
I'm in... :)
Mladen Jankovic (2006-12-07 14:02:00)
The reason
I'm currently entertaining the idea of signing up for yet another waiting list. With the Big Chess tournament in progress and being signed up for the WCH, I belive it would be too much if I signed up for another one. Maybe something like a waiting list vacation. Sorry about giving you more work.
Thibault de Vassal (2007-02-16 00:00:43)
A solution?
Hi Pablo.
The real point is here (quote from Benjamin) : "The discussion is not about to change something. It is about to build a new feature here"
Such a new feature is not only something more, it would completely change the challenge's nature offered here. I don't think it's a good idea. A special tournament would have no sense here IMO. If you want to play without computer assistance and be sure your opponents do the same, the only solution is... play big chess :)
Thibault de Vassal (2007-02-25 13:23:18)
Big Chess
Finally, Big Chess tournaments waiting list is open !
If you like to play without chess engines and against human players only, you may try this really interesting variant of chess. (unrated games)
Have a look at these Big Chess events by clicking 'Tournaments', then 'FICGS__CHESS__SPECIAL_EVENTS' :
FICGS__BIG_CHESS__THOUSAND_MEMBERS_EVENT
FICGS__BIG_CHESS__INAUGURAL_MATCH
Have good big chess games :)
Ovidiu Baron (2007-03-01 16:12:17)
Big chess. An idea!
Interesting game, but I think the Big chess has a small(?) problem, the 16 squares on the vertical. It takes too much time to bring the pawns into the game, and the risk is that they will not participate at the "battle" at all. Wouldn't be more efficient to reduce the vertical lines a little bit, maybe not to 8 squares, because of the central knights positioning, but to 10 or 12?
Thibault de Vassal (2007-03-02 11:57:24)
Big chess. An idea
I saw another chess variant with about 16 squares on the horizontal and 8 lines on the vertical... I don't feel it's interesting enough... A kind of "double-chessboard". But you're right, pawns won't participate in the opening battle... What's interesting IMO is the many ways the middle game could happen :)
Now I'm discussing "theory" with some of my opponents.. :)
Thibault de Vassal (2007-04-05 01:58:22)
Big Chess championship
Hello to all.
You may have seen in the chat bar the idea to organize a Big Chess championship at FICGS is in the air.
It could be interesting for several reasons, the first one of course is there's no engine to help players :) .. by the way, it may be really hard to program a good Big Chess engine, it should use some Go concepts combined to a powerful chess engine (with quite different parameters).
Now there are some questions :
- What rules for a Big Chess championship ?
- What about a Big Chess rating ?
In my opinion, there shouldn't be a Big Chess rating. That's a pity, but "simple" chess should remain the main rated game here. Actually, the nature of this game (and time control) makes me think it should remain a friendly game first. However there could a championship for fun...
About the rules for such a championship, it could look like the Go championship : A two-stages tournament, first stage would be a single round-robin tournament with the 7 players who won most Big Chess tournaments (will help to promote tournaments ;)), second stage would be a 6 games match against current champion (if the final score is a draw, the current champion will keep his title).
What do you think ?
Thibault de Vassal (2007-04-05 18:42:04)
Big Chess championship
Actually the problem with a multi-stages (4 rounds or more) tournament is it would finish in 2009 as well :)
With my system, Big Chess tournaments would be a continuous championship. Not perfect for sure, but it may be enough. What do you think ?
Thibault de Vassal (2007-04-06 01:22:32)
Big Chess championship
Simple rules (1 win or lead = 1 point) have some clear advantages...
I have to think about it.
Jason Repa (2007-04-07 04:23:38)
Big Chess
This is an excellent idea! I'm looking forward to playing in the next Big Chess tournament!
Christophe Czekaj (2007-04-11 13:20:54)
Big chess
I agree with Heinz Georg. First place = 7 points, second 6 for example, etc. We could take the ratio (total of points scored / number of tournament) to qualify 7 players for the championship (double round ?)
Volker Koslowski (2007-04-12 22:02:56)
Big Chess Championship
I think that a system based up on points suggested by Heinz-Georg is a good idea for a BC Championship. It is not very complex and maybe we must not wait until 2009 for the first final round robin tournament :)
Thibault de Vassal (2007-06-12 19:11:21)
More rating lists ?
What about more rating lists at FICGS ?
- Correspondence chess active & inactive players lists
- Blitz & lightning rating list
- Big chess rating list (class tournaments !?)
- Go rating list
Also there could be casual blitz & lightning chess tournaments with entry fee & prizes, blitz & lightning games with a tiny entry fee (no prize) and more ways to win E-Points...
Feel free if you have any comment or idea...
Thibault de Vassal (2007-06-15 17:12:39)
Online chess today
A few links to discussions at TCCMB (The Correspondence Chess Message Board) on chess servers nowadays, future of ICCF, correspondence chess [once more] and so on...
http://ancients.correspondencechess.com/index.php?topic=105.0
http://ancients.correspondencechess.com/index.php?topic=109.0
In the second discussion I tried to answer on the future of correspondence chess & chess engines :
1) Like the 'tour de France', it is impossible to organize a "bicycle race" at chess without doping today IMO. Also there are so many 'products' : Various books, databases, engines, human help.. so it seems to me that it is a non-sense to try to make it like an OTB tournament. Online chess is "motorcycle races" & freestyle, nothing else.
2) The ratio of wins does not decrease much in computer games & advanced chess (blitz), and correspondence chess games will never be all drawn IMO. We just have to follow the horizon line... Engines still have difficulties when there are 32 pieces on the board... Make the position more and more complex & critical, play Benoni structures, East indians and English openings... There will probably be more and more draws but when looking at CC 2500+ games, the ratio is still quite good. The problem at CC is mainly the style of play with humans 'humanly' trying to remain in known positions where they can win and can't lose.
'The good fighters of old first put themselves beyond the possibility of defeat, and then waited for an opportunity of defeating the enemy', 'Opportunities multiply as they are seized' (Sun Tzu)
A solution is to make rules that motivate players to avoid draws, particularly when playing against a higher rated opponent. (ie. the rule for FICGS 8-games matches)
3) We feel that engines play almost perfect chess because of our poor human's level of play (I should say ratings)... But engines & computers have to improve a lot yet - not obvious they can do it in a more or less near future -, the horizon line is not so far, each version of Rybka wins about 30 elo points... We'll see engines at level 3200, 3300 maybe much more... (4000 ?)
4) If too many players have their CC rating between 2750-2800 in future, we can make new rules : Ratings wouldn't be calculated on the basis of each game, but on the basis of ie. 8-games matches... Then strategy would be more important & we would see rating gaps again between the best players...
Finally if I'm completely wrong, play Big Chess ;D
Thibault de Vassal (2007-06-16 15:45:46)
FICGS 3.0 , novelties & advanced chess
Dear chessfriends, the new FICGS version is installed :) ... Improvements :
- New random design (see preferences) after each login, great IMO :)
- Correspondence chess established, preliminary & complete rating lists (user mode)
- Big chess rating list
- http://www.ficgs.com/membership.html#rating_big_chess
- Rated big chess tournaments (no more unrated)
- Advanced ches rating list
- http://www.ficgs.com/membership.html#rating_advanced_chess
- Rated advanced chess tournaments (money blitz & lightning games)
- New advanced chess games category : CHESS MONEY BRONZE (entry fee 0,2 E-Point)
Advanced chess games are chess games played at Lightning (30 minutes + 1 minute / move) or Blitz (2 hours + 2 hours / 40 moves) time control. Computer assistance is encouraged. See rating rules for advanced chess, everyone gets a rating (first estimated from your correspondence chess rating) after you played your first game.
Every member now has 2 free E-Points to play 10 free CHESS MONEY BRONZE (advanced chess) games. Consequently the FICGS advanced chess server is not free of charge after this free trial.
This is a major improvement, so there will be some adjustments during the next days, particularly to reorganize money tournaments.
Feel free if you have any comment or suggestion...
Have good games :)
Thibault de Vassal (2007-06-17 15:34:20)
Swiss tournaments
Hi Dan, I think I'll add an active players list soon...
About the swiss tournaments, I'm thinking about such advanced chess tournaments, but it would be hard to organize a correspondence chess tourney with the swiss system... (the rounds can't be played at the same time)
I'm to completely change the waiting lists structure for big chess & money tournaments.
Thibault de Vassal (2007-06-18 20:50:23)
Big chess theory : "Queens opening"
The first rated Big Chess tournament started a few days ago... I like this game more and more, no theory, no databases, no chess engines, many strategies & many queens captured already ;)
Every opening seems ok, we still don't know if taking pawns with the queen during the first moves is worth something or not, the value of the pieces is quite unpredictable... Many players now play 1.Nh4 to threaten 2.Qo7 then 3.Qc7 if needed, winning a pawn. What is the best response if you want to keep the same material ? .. Anyway that's very interesting to see a side with 1 or 2 pawns more, giving some rooks activity to the opponent.. Still looks like a draw theorically.
My main line is : 1.Nh4 Nh13 2.Qo7 No14 3.Qc7 Ql13
Any other suggestion ?
See Big Chess waiting list in Chess Special Tournaments.
Nick Burrows (2007-06-18 22:26:26)
BCT
The very slippery slope of big chess theory begins....(!)
Hannes Rada (2007-06-18 22:32:37)
Big chess software
Is there any software that can manage big chess games ? (store, load, database )
Thibault de Vassal (2007-06-18 22:40:11)
Big chess software
Well, FICGS :)
I hope there will never be such a software, even if I would be curious to see big chess engines playing !
Thibault de Vassal (2007-06-20 22:54:33)
Internet chess
Well, the discussion with Tryfon Gavriel continues at TCCMB. As I had to explain the way I make FICGS, I copy my responses here :
http://ancients.correspondencechess.com/index.php?topic=109.15
Hello again Tryfon !
That's a very interesting discussion...
Actually I have to explain FICGS in its whole to respond :) .. To be continued for sure..
While registering a new member wrote to me a few months ago "Thanks for creating this ultimate chess challenge" or so... That's exactly what I try to do, mostly with the FICGS championship knockout & round-robin rules... Players just want challenge, that's the only assumption I start with, so I try to create interesting challenges. About the intellectual part, you're right but I'm quite sure that top level correspondence chess players still consider their game as an intellectual challenge, much more than a brute force or computer skills one. That's not the case for Advanced chess with fast time controls.
Let's take a look at the bicycle races again... The "Tour de France" is dying IMO.. because everyone understood we "don't know" if the champion is ok.. If doping was allowed (it would be a scandal for health of course), I'm sure the interest would raise again ! I think it is the same for chess & for everything else... The "Tour de France" syndrom happened in Elista with the match Kramnik vs. Topalov... It will have consequences. We need champions and we want true champions, every means are ok for this ! .. So the "engines allowed" rule is the only one possible or reasonable in my opinion.
Of course, chess & correspondence chess are changing, because these "walls" are nearer & nearer... maybe chess will die, maybe not.. The main problem is that in 1997, a super computer became World Champion... this year a "simple" computer Deep Fritz became world champion, soon Rybka on a cellular phone... :) Who is really interested to be a champion in "human category" ? FIDE world chess championship will continue to progressively lose its interest IMO...
Correspondence chess is just starting to grow in popularity and is told to be dying already. Surely correspondence chess will ask more & more time at a high level to win a few points, but it is possible to create more challenge by ie. changing the rating rules (the "design" of Elo rating system will become a problem).. Then, if it is not enough, we'll look for other challenges... It's told for years that Go (Weiqi) will replace chess in western countries... why not Big chess as the "brain only" game if there can't be doping in it.. just trying, as there's no other solution :)
A word about Poker of course, as it's probably the fastest growing game in popularity : IMO this game is at a stade like chess in year 1900, but the same problem will happen, even quicker. At a high level the game will be just more and more boring (if you wish to win real money) or chancy (in a wch tournament), or you'll have to always find weak players (well, not very challenging).
About the simultaneous exhibition against Alekhine or Capablanca, I'm not sure at all they would crush everyone at our chess servers, they are undoubtly more talented than all of us, but I feel it wouldn't be enough in all cases to win against correspondence chess style of play & knowledge accumulated for 50 years... A few players rated OTB 2000-2200 could draw against them IMO...
At last, yes I'm a fan of Sun Tzu's "The art of war" :) .. I strongly believe that correspondence chess will not die in the next few years because players will follow its principles more and more, as the only way to win ! .. Big chess follows the same principles... and Go is the most challenging game because of it too !
Tryfon, I'm not sure that we're opposite in our vision of chess ! .. Our servers have obviousy different goals, nothing more.. I do enjoy playing mad blitz games without chess engines... I just believe that the future of internet chess is "serious (engines allowed, rated) correspondence chess" on one hand and "human chess for fun (no engines, unrated)" on the other hand... The other ways look like nonsense to me.
I hope it responds.
Best wishes, Thibault
Thibault de Vassal (2007-06-23 18:35:15)
Rating rules update
Hello to all.
As I said in another thread, experience shows that rating rules were still too hard IMO : A player winning or drawing against another one rated 350 points more most often means the lower rated player should be rated higher, not the contrary... A few games only are concerned, but with provisional ratings such results are still not fair, and many players rated 2100 to 2300 fear to lose points in the chess WCH, even if they win their groups. The new rule should allow strong players not to fear (too much :)) to play against anyone in rated tournaments without rating restrictions, like wch, blitz & lightning ones.
Consequently, the rule "In case of a loss or draw against a player rated more than 350 points less, the opponent's rating considered in calculation is : Elo - 350" has been changed to "In case of a loss or draw against a player rated more than 200 points less, the opponent's rating considered in calculation is : Elo - 200"
All correspondence chess results of these last 2 months & in the future will be affected, as well as future advanced chess & big chess results.
Pekka I. Turakainen (2007-06-24 06:17:11)
One variant of BIG CHESS
For one variant of big chess, see http://apollo13.wippiespace.com/doublechess.html ________________________________ Good thing about this version is that it is faster than DeVassal's Big Chess, and that it can be played with two normal chess boards. From the rest I'm not at all sure of...suggestions for improvements?
Thibault de Vassal (2007-06-24 17:00:06)
One variant of BIG CHESS
Yes, I saw it before... But I suspect that computers could play it quite well too. Big Chess, like Go, is quite long but it helps to make the game much more complex IMO.
Mladen Jankovic (2007-06-26 15:55:09)
a question
When you designed the Big Chess, did you playtest it much?
BTW, doublewide can be played with 4 boards http://www.chessvariants.org/large.dir/doublewide-chess.html
Thibault de Vassal (2007-08-29 14:15:49)
Correspondence Chess without computers ?
Hi Christophe !
I still don't believe anymore in this human-only correspondence chess, maybe that's why we play Big Chess ;)
But we could create a new unrated category in Chess Special Tournaments : FICGS__CHESS__NO_ENGINES_TOURNAMENT__000001
I'm not sure... Anyone interested ?
Thibault de Vassal (2007-09-06 12:29:10)
Glen D. Shields
Hello Glen !
We had this discussion before, indeed chess engines killed imagination and a part of the fun. The game has changed a lot, more since Rybka appeared. Correspondence chess is now how to beat Rybka, that's a fact... and a new challenge.
Did you try another game, like Big Chess or Go (I really enjoy playing these games), where engines are completely useless and now both rated at FICGS ? My two cents ;)
Thibault de Vassal (2007-09-11 17:18:40)
Best game
There could be also one for Big Chess :/ .. That's a problem, indeed. Also it would be great to find a way to "promote" really good games... I added a message "Don't forget to vote for the best game !" in the new message box already. Any idea ?
Thibault de Vassal (2007-10-02 03:45:44)
Update : Crosstables and Big Chess
A new update, now tournament crosstables link to games (in a new window), which is a more convenient way to find a particular game in a tournament. Click the magnifying glass next to the tournament's name, then on a symbol (1, 0, =, *) in the crosstable and a new window will appear with the game.
Also a new category in special tournaments : Big Chess masters (2000+), waiting for a complete category for Big Chess. Reminder : Your first Big Chess rating is your current Correspondence Chess rating - 300 (see your ratings in Preferences), so a player CC rated 2300+ without a Big Chess rating can enter the Big Chess masters waiting list.
Thibault de Vassal (2007-10-03 15:16:42)
Update : Rating changes
Rating changes for advanced chess (bullet, lightning, blitz), big chess & Go are now mentioned in emails when a game is finished.
Thibault de Vassal (2007-11-07 15:21:35)
Wayne...
We need more Big Chess players, no chess engines there :)
Thibault de Vassal (2007-11-11 16:44:30)
50 ..
50 games is a lot already but it could be a reasonable compromise. I like the levels feature at IECG server too, but I don't think it could be ok here with other games available, or there should be a limit for each game : Chess, Big Chess, Go...
Mladen Jankovic (2007-12-19 22:40:38)
Small board
I was about to propose recently an implementation of a small board variant, just for fun that wouldn't be counted against the game limit.
Such things tend to be just plain fun.
With a small board variation you would complete the offer along side of Big Chess, Chess regular, and Chess 960.
You might want to consider some of Gardner's variants. I've played Los Alamos chess, and it's FUN.
Thibault de Vassal (2008-03-18 19:43:35)
Quote festival, part 4
Now everyone (but newcomers) know the principle :)
Feel free to let your madness go and share your own quotes about chess, life and whatever.. The best ones will enter the FICGS quotes files :)
... just like in this previous thread :
http://www.ficgs.com/user_page.php?page=forum_read&id=3448
- Hello Thibault, if I have had a plan (and I had one, I hope), I have forgotten it during the last week... - Hello Heinz-Georg. What do you mean a plan ? :)
(Anonymous players during a Big Chess game)
Thibault de Vassal (2008-07-01 17:10:49)
Big chess in russian forums
Quite funny to see a Big chess game (Lehnhoff - de Vassal :)) discussed in a russian forum, even if I don't understand a single word of the discussion - any help welcome :/
http://kasparovchess.crestbook.com/viewtopic.php?pid=181338
We definitely need more Big chess players, great game - let's have fun ! :)
Thibault de Vassal (2008-08-07 17:03:04)
Longest game
I wondered the same a few days ago... I'll write a small script to find such statistics today ;)
92 moves, Wolfgang... not bad, we will see.. In another category, I played a 200+ moves big chess game with Heinz-Georg :p
Thibault de Vassal (2008-08-08 19:44:16)
Longest game : 129 moves
Now you can find some additional statistics for the longest games in the page http://www.ficgs.com/about.html (at the bottom, below opening stats)
Go - http://www.ficgs.com/game_9942.html
Chess - http://www.ficgs.com/game_10806.html
Chess 960 - http://www.ficgs.com/game_8791.html
Big Chess - http://www.ficgs.com/game_15403.html
Thibault de Vassal (2008-08-11 17:44:44)
annotated games
If we can find a smart way to annotate games played at FICGS (and others, why not), all games will be available, including Go and Big Chess... let's see how the other thread goes :)
Thibault de Vassal (2008-08-11 18:03:22)
Annotated games
This feature could be interesting, but there are many ways. An idea could be to link moves from any chess game to Wikichess (but Go and Big chess don't have such a wiki), however I'll have to make it easier to enter a complete game.
Thibault de Vassal (2008-08-16 12:29:32)
Questions to Xavier Pichelin
Xavier Pichelin is 1st FICGS chess champion after beating IM Gino Figlio in the first candidates final, he accepted to talk about his match, the tournament, his views around correspondence chess, chess engines and so on... The most important part may be he'll defend his title against the winner of the 2nd candidates final :)
Unfortunately, the complete interview is in french only as he doesn't speak english, but if someone finds a good translator (if possible better than Babelfish), he may post it in this thread. Thanks !
- Bonjour Xavier et tout d'abord félicitations pour ta victoire dans le match qui t'opposait au MI (ICCF) Gino Figlio [Pérou] dans la finale des candidats. Tu devais éviter à tout prix la nulle dans toutes les parties, finalement les noirs t'ont porté chance, comment expliques-tu ce résultat ?
Xavier : Bonjour, merci pour les félicitations. C'est vrai qu'en cas de nulles pour toutes les parties, le règlement indique Figlio Vainqueur en cas d'égalité avec victoire(s) et défaite(s) je remporte le match. Donc il fallait que je prenne des risques en attaquant et c'est avec les noirs que je l'ai fait car je pensais que Gino, dans ces parties, attendrait sans prendre de risques pour assurer les nulles.
- Peux-tu nous décrire la manière dont tu as abordé ce match contre Gino et son déroulement au fur et à mesure des différentes phases du jeu ?
X : C'est assez simple, dans ce match je n'étais pas du tout favori car avec plus de 200 points ELO FICGS en ma défaveur, et Gino titré Maître International avec plus de 2480 point ELO ICCF, je pensais que je n'allais pas résister sur 8 parties simultanées car sur une partie tout est possible mais sur 8 parties... c'était pour moi un grand défi ! Pour le déroulement du jeu j'ai joué la diversité sur mes débuts avec les blancs 4 parties 4 coups différents : 1.e4 1.d4 1.c4 1.Cf3. Gino a fait de même : 1.e4 1.d4 1.Cf3 1.Cc3. Ce qui m'a fait douter aussi car 1.Cc3 m'a surpris, je pensais qu'il avait prévu un début tonitruand et c'est là que je me suis dit qu'il fallait que je prenne des risques avec les noirs. Au fur et à mesure des différentes phases du jeu j'ai assuré les nulles des positions équilibrées pour me concacrer a deux parties avantageuses dont une avec les blancs et une avec les noirs pour au moins faire la différence dans une partie pour assurer la victoire. Et en fin de compte c'est 3 victoires qui me reviennent, ce qui me paraissait impossible étant donnée la qualité du jeu de Gino joué sur ce site pour arriver à la finale des candidats du championnat.
- Tu as réalisé pendant le championnat un parcours sans faute, aucune défaite à signaler, tu affiches également des statistiques stratosphériques à 78% contre une moyenne elo à près de 2200, quel est ton secret ?
X : Mon secret? Je n'ai pas de secret. Si j'avais un secret je ne le dévoilerais pas sinon je ne gagnerais plus ! Je pense que j'ai eu un petit peu de chance car il s'en est fallu de peu que je ne sois pas qualifié au stage 3 (robin-round final) car il y avait 3 joueurs à égalité et j'ai eu l'avantage du classement du départ de ce tournoi comme l'indique le règlement. Quant à mes statistiques, c'est aussi grâce aux erreurs de mes adversaires qui m'ont permis de gagner des parties équilibrées.
- Que penses-tu du système mi-ko, mi-toutes-rondes du championnat FICGS et de ses départages inédits lors des matchs en 8 parties ? Quelles modifications y apporterais-tu ?
X : Très bonne question ! Le système mi-ko pour moi est un peu trop rapide car un coup par jour c'est des heures d'analyses pour exploiter une position compliquée, ce qui est difficile quand on à plusieurs parties en cours. Surtout quand on travaille. C'est peut-être aussi grâce à cette cadence que mes adversaires, faute de temps, ont fait des imprécisions sur certaines postions ou exploité mes erreurs. Mais cette cadence a un avantage par rapport aux cadences ICCF qui est de 5 jours par coup, c'est que les parties durent 5 fois moins longtemps ! Le départage inédit des matchs en 8 parties est excellent, obliger le favori à assurer tous les matchs nulles pour gagner ce duel et sinon d'obtenir une victoire supplémentaire contre le challenger est un mode très bien pensé. La modification que je pourrais y apporter est peut-être la gestion du temps qui est rapide pour un système de jeu par serveur. Peut-être augmenter l'horloge de départ de 15 jours, soit de commencer avec 45 jours contre 30 en ce moment. Et aussi la possibilité des prendre des vacances uniquement sur le tournoi en cours afin de gérer les autres parties du site. Par exemple prendre 7 jours de vacances sur un tournoi d'échecs du championnat et pouvoir jouer un tournoi de Big Chess, de Go ou un autre tournoi d'échecs pendant ces vacances. Pouvoir choisir une date de début de vacances à l'avance serait également appréciable.
- Pourquoi t'être investi dans les échecs par correspondance ? T'apportent-ils d'autres satisfactions par rapport aux échecs classiques et au blitz ?
X : Je préfère les échecs par correspondance par rapport au temps. Car les échecs classiques se jouent souvent le week-end, à une heure précise et souvent en déplacement pour effectuer un tournoi. L'avantage, pour moi, des échecs par correspondance est que je puisse me connecter à n'importe quelle heure pour jouer mes coups, ce qui me permet, par exemple, de faire des repas de famille le week-end et le soir tard de jouer un coup, ce qui n'est pas possible aux échecs classiques.
- Tu as su ne pas céder à la tentation et te limiter à jouer un nombre très raisonnable de parties sur le site tout le long du championnat, penses-tu néanmoins que les échecs par correspondance soient addictifs et à quel point ? Ont-ils des répercussions sur ta vie de tous les jours ?
X : Oui ! Limiter mon nombre de parties en cours est pour moi essentiel pour essayer d'avoir des parties de qualité plutôt que de quantité. Avoir beaucoup de parties en simultanée est quand même une chose très difficile à gérer ! C'est peut-être la clé de ma victoire contre Figlio, j'ai regardé ses parties en cours, il en avait pas loin de 90 sur le site de l'ICCF, cela a pu se ressentir sur son temps d'analyse consacré à nos 8 parties sur FICGS. Sur la vie de tous les jours les répercussions sont familiales car il est vrai que je passe plus de temps à analyser les parties et moins temps avec ma famille, ce qui est assez difficile pour moi. Mais quand les résultats sont là je ne regrette pas !
- Que penses-tu de la place actuelle des moteurs d'analyse (Rybka, Shredder, Fritz et autres) dans les échecs par correspondance ? Quelles sont pour toi les qualités complémentaires essentielles du joueur par correspondance, devenu centaure avec la machine pour jambes ?
X : Les moteurs d'analyses dans les échecs par correspondances sont utilisés par 95% des joueurs... Maintenant il faut s'adapter et savoir utiliser ces machines à calculer. Car jouer simplement le meilleur coup de Rybka 3, de Fritz 12 ou Hiarcs 12 sans réfléchir mentalement mène à la nulle si l'adversaire fait de même ou possiblement à perdre si l'adversaire se donne la peine de réfléchir en les utilisant également. En sachant que lorsqu'on est dans le milieu de partie ces logiciels vous donnent souvent 4 à 5 coups evalués de manière semblable, et c'est là qu'il faut choisir le bon coup alors que celui-ci n'est même pas forcément cité par le moteur d'analyse...
- Tu joues désormais au Big Chess sur le site, curiosité ou intérêt ? Que penses-tu de cette version étrange des échecs ?
X : Par curiosité et par amusement et je pense que Rybka 3 ne joue pas encore au Big Chess ! Cette version est quasiment inédite je ne connaissais pas cette forme de jeu d'échecs auparavant donc celui qui a inventé ce jeu a très bien fait ! A propos c'est moi qui vous pose une question sur le Big chess... Y a t-il possiblité de roquer avec ce jeu si oui comment? (NDLR : Non, il est impossible de roquer au Big Chess)
- Et enfin la question que tout le monde se pose, particulièrement François et Wolfgang qui disputent la deuxième finale des candidats, penses-tu pouvoir défendre ton titre l'an prochain ? :)
X : Bien sûr ! Je défendrai le titre ! J'aimerais si possible savoir la date et la cadence du match. Et je souhaite à François et Wolfgang une belle finale ! Je dois faire honneur à cette compétition qui est bien organisée !
- Le match devrait pouvoir débuter durant la première semaine de janvier 2009, la cadence sera à nouveau de 30 jours et 1 jour supplémentaire par coup. Merci pour tes réponses, et encore bravo pour cette belle performance !
X : Merci ! Et à bientôt ! Bonne continuation à tous et bonnes parties !
Benjamin Block (2008-08-18 08:52:18)
Try to translate!
I think it is something like that?
Hello Xavier and first congratulations on your victory in the match which t'opposait the MI (ICCF) Gino Figlio [Peru] in the final candidates. You should avoid at all costs void in all parties, finally brought blacks t'ont chance, how do you explain this result? X
avier: Hello, thank you for the congratulations. It is true that in case of zero for all parties, the regulation states Figlio winner in the event of a tie with victory (s) and defeat (s) I won the match. So I had to take risks in attacking and it is with blacks that I did it because I thought Gino, in these parts, expected without taking risks to ensure the void.
-- Can you tell us about how you approached this match against Gino and his conduct as different phases of the game?
X: It's pretty simple, in this match I was not at all favorite because with more than 200 ELO points FICGS to my disadvantage, and Gino titled Master International, with more than 2480 ELO ICCF point, I thought I n ' not resist going on 8 simultaneous games as a part everything is possible but on 8 parts ... it was for me a great challenge! In the course of the game I played diversity in my beginnings with white 4 parts 4 different strokes: 1.e4 1.d4 1.c4 1.Cf3. Gino did the same: 1.e4 1.d4 1.Cf3 1.Cc3. What made me doubt also because 1.Cc3 surprised me, I thought he had planned an early tonitruand and this is where I said that I should take risks with blacks. As the different phases of the game I assured the zero positions balanced for me concacrer deal has two parts, one with blanks and one with the black for at least make a difference in part to ensure victory. And ultimately it 3 victories me back, which seemed impossible given the quality of the game Gino played on this site to reach the final of the championship candidates.
-- You have made during a championship course without fault, no losses to report, you also posters statistics stratospheric to 78% against an average elo to about 2200, what's your secret?
X: My secret? I have no secret. If I had a secret I do not dévoilerais if I do win more! I think I got a little lucky because he is required by little I am not qualified to stage 3 (round-robin final) because there were 3 players equally and I had l 'advantage classifying the departure of this tournament as indicated by the regulation. As for my statistics, it is also thanks to the errors of my opponents who allowed me to win parts in balance.
-- What do you think the system mid-ko, semi-all-round championship FICGS and its new départages in matches in 8 parties? What changes would it be?
X: Very good question! The system mid-ko for me is a little too fast since a coup by day is overtime analyses to operate a complicated position, which is difficult when several parties in progress. Especially when you work. It is perhaps also through this pace that my opponents lack of time, made some uncertainty regarding postions or exploited my mistakes. But the pace has an advantage over the cadences ICCF which is 5 days a coup is that the parties had to 5 times less time! The départage new games to 8 parts is excellent, forcing the favorite to ensure all matches to nil win this duel and otherwise obtain an additional victory against the challenger is a very well thought out. The amendment that I could make is perhaps time management which is fast for a game system per server. Perhaps increase the clock starting 15 days, starting with 45 against 30 days at this time. And also the possibility of taking a vacation only on the tournament underway to manage other parts of the site. For example, take 7 days vacation on a chess tournament championship and be able to play a tournament Big Chess, Go or another chess tournament during the holidays. Being able to choose a start date of holidays in advance would also be appreciated.
-- Why t'être invested in correspondence chess? T'apportent there are other rewards compared to traditional chess and blitz?
X: I prefer chess match over time. For the classical chess is often play the weekend at a specific time and often on the move to make a tournament. The advantage for me, correspondence chess is that I can connect at any time to play my shots, which allows me, for example, making family meals on weekends and late at night to play a coup, which is not possible chess classics.
-- You knew not to succumb to the temptation and you only play a very reasonable number of parties on the site throughout the championship, do you think nevertheless that the correspondence chess are addictive and at what point? Did they affect your everyday life?
X: Yes! Limiting my number of games in progress is essential for me to try to have parts of quality rather than quantity. Have a lot of parts simultaneously is still something very difficult to manage! This is perhaps the key to my victory against Figlio, I watched its games in progress, it had nearly 90 on the site of the ICCF, it has been felt on his time devoted to analysis our parties on FICGS 8. On the everyday life impacts are family because it is true that I spend more time to analyze the parts and less time with my family, which is quite difficult for me. But when the results are there I do not regret!
-- What do you think about the current position of engines for analysis (Rybka, Shredder, Fritz and others) in correspondence chess? What are the qualities you complementary core player by correspondence, now centaur with the machine for legs?
X: The engines of analyses in chess matches are used by 95% of players ... Now we must adapt and learn to use these machines to calculate. Car simply play the best shot of Rybka 3, Fritz 12 or Hiarcs 12 mentally without thinking leads to zero if the opponent does the same or possibly lose if the opponent gives himself the trouble to consider using them as well. Knowing that when you're in the middle part of these programs give you often 4 to 5 strokes assessed similarly, and that is that we must choose the right time when it is not even necessarily cited by the analysis engine ...
-- You get the Big Chess now on the site, curiosity or interest? What do you think of this strange version of chess?
X: For curiosity and fun and I think Rybka 3 is not yet the Big Chess! This version is almost unprecedented I did not know this form of chess before therefore the one who invented this game was very well done! About I'm the one who asks you a question on the Big chess ... Is there possibility of castle with this game if so, how? (Editor's note: No, it is impossible to castle the Big Chess)
-- And finally the question that everyone arises, especially Francis and Wolfgang disputing that the second final candidates, think you can defend your title next year? :)
X: of course! I will defend the title! I would like if possible to know the timing and pace of the match. And I wish Francis and Wolfgang a beautiful final! I must honor in this competition which is well organized!
-- The match should be able to start during the first week of January 2009, the pace will again 30 days and 1 additional day by coup. Thank you for your answers, and even congratulations for this excellent performance!
X: Thank you! And see you! Bonne continuation to all and good parties!
Andrew Stephenson (2008-08-18 16:06:16)
translation
I will have a go off the top of my head at giving a sense of the interview in english (I dont know the phrase tonitruand but I am guessing it means dynamic!)?: Hi Xavier and first of all congratulations on your success in the candidates final match against IM (ICCF) Gino Figlio [Peru] You had to avoid drawing all the games and finally you succeded with the black pieces. How did that happen? Xavier: Hi thank you. Its true that if all the games had been drawn then under the rules Figlio would have won whereas if the match was drawn but with a win and loss I would win. Because of this I had to take risks and attack. It was with Black that I did this because I thought that Gino would play safely to be sure of a draw. - Tell us how you approched the match and how the different phases of the game went x: Its quite simple, I was not the favorite I have 200 ELO less on FICGS and Gino is an IM on ICCF with a 2480 rating. I did not think I could survive 8 games at once - in a single game anything is possible but 8 games .... it was a big challenge for me! In the openings I chose 4 different moves 1 e4 1 d4 1 c4 1 Nf3 Gino chose 1 e4 1 d4 1 c4 1 Nc3 I was surpised by 1 Nc3 because I was expecting dynamic openings and it was then that I decided I must take some risks with black. I kept most of the games balanced with a draw in hand and concentrated on 2 games 1 white and 1 black to get a result. In the end I got 3 wins which seemed an impossibility given the quality of the games Gino had played on this site to reach the final. - you have not lost any games in the championship and you have fantastic statistics 78% against an average elo of about 2200. What is your secret? x: My secret? I havent any secret and if I did I would not say because I would not win anymore! I think I have been a bit lucky because in the the Round Robin final there were 3 of us on the same score and I went through under the rules because of my rating. As for my statistics I was helped by mistakes by opponents who allowed me to win some drawn games. - What do you think of the system for the FICGS championship (round robin and knock out matches)and what changes would you make? x: Very good question. The matches are a bit too fast for me - 1 day per move when there are hours of analysis needed to exploit a complicated position its difficult when you have several games running Particularly if you are working. Perhaps that is why my opponents have made errors or failed to exploit my mistakes. But this time limit has an advantage over ICCF where it is 5 days per move the games here are 5 times quicker! Having 8 game matches is an excellent idea and obliging the favorite to draw all the games and the challenger to get a at least 1 victory is very well thought out. The change that I would suggest is to have 15 days extra starting time that is 45 days at the start instead of 30 and also the possibilty to take holidays for tournaments for example take 7 days for championship games and to be able to play big chess go or another chess tournament during the holiday. To be able to choose the start of a holiday in advance would also be good. - Why do you like cc and how does it compare to blitz and normal chess? x: I prefer cc because of the time factor. Classical chess is often played at the week end at a fixed time and you have to travel to the tournament. The advantage for me at cc is that I can connect at any time to play a move which allows me for example to have meals with the family at the weekend. Late night moves for example are not possible at classical chess. - You limited the number of your games on the site to a reasonable amount throughout the championship. Do you think nonetheless that cc is addictive? Does it affect your daily life? x: Yes! Limiting the number of my games is essential to try to have games of quality not quantity. Having a lot of games going at the same time is something very difficult to handle. It is perhaps the key to my victory against Figlio - I looked at his games - he had not less than 80 games going on at ICCF this must have affected the amount of time he could spend analysing his 8 games at FICGS. The effects on daily life are felt by the family because the reality is if I spend more time analysing the games I spend less time with the family. Thats difficult for me. But when the results come I dont regret it! - What do you think of the role of chess engines (Rybka Fritz etc)in cc. What are for you the important skills of a cc player - to supplement the machine? x: Chess engines are used in cc by 95% of players. You have to adapt yourself and know how to use the engines. To play just the best move of Rybka 3 Fritz 12 or Hiracs 12 without thinking leads to a draw if your opponent does the same or to a loss if your opponent is thinking. You have to choose bewteen 4 or 5 moves with a similer evaluation from the engine during a game and sometimes the best move is not among these. - You play Big chess. Interest or curiosity? What do you think of this strange version of chess? X : Curiosity and amusement and I think Rrybka 3 cannot yet play Big Chess! This version is new and I did not know it and the inventor has done a good job! By the way I would like to ask is it possible to castle at Big Chess? [No its not possible] - Finally the question that everyone is asking particularly Francois and Wolfgang who are contesting the 2nd candidates final. Do think you will be able to defend your title next year? :) x: Definitely I will defend the title I would like to know if possible the date and time limits for the match. I wish Francois and Wolfgang a great match! I would also like to express my appreciation for this tournament which has been well organised! - the match should start in the first week in January next year the time limit will be 30 days plus 1 day per move. Thank you for your answers and once again congratulations on a great performance. x: Thank you. Cheers. Best wishes to everyone and good games!
William Taylor (2008-09-18 13:25:56)
Big Chess Championship
I know there was a discussion some time ago about a big chess championship here on FICGS. Now the first 'M' class big chess tournament has started and I think big chess has enough regular players to try a championship. What do you think?
Heinz-Georg Lehnhoff (2008-09-18 20:13:56)
Big Chess Championship
Hello Thibault,
let us start this championship!
Best, Heinz-Georg
Thibault de Vassal (2008-09-18 20:48:47)
Big Chess Championship
Well, I have to find some time to make changes first. Big Chess ratings are probably too confusing :/
William Taylor (2008-09-20 17:55:27)
Too confusing?
Why are Big Chess ratings more confusing than any other kind of rating? ô¿ô
Thibault de Vassal (2008-09-22 17:07:19)
Big Chess ratings
They are because "provisional big chess ratings" are correspondence (classical) chess ratings minus 300 points. I estimated this was a good idea because Big Chess was quite different but I'm not sure anymore... What do you think ?
William Taylor (2008-09-22 18:33:42)
Big Chess ratings
Hmm. As you say, the game is quite different from ordinary chess, and as we can't use engines and very little research has been done into Big Chess we might all be 300 points or so weaker at it than at real chess. It might be quite nice to have the ratings over a similar range to ordinary chess ratings, but that doesn't really matter. Presumably once you have determined the provisional ratings you then use the same algorithm as you do for normal chess ratings? It's hard to suggest a format without an estimate of how many people would play, but we don't necessarily have to have an accurate and established Big Chess rating system to hold a championship.
William Taylor (2008-09-22 18:36:07)
An idea
We could perhaps use the 'M' class tournament that has just started to decide the first Big Chess champion. Thereafter a challenger could be decided by a similar high-rated tournament, or else by an open tournament or series of tournaments if it's thought that the rating system isn't reliable enough.
Heinz-Georg Lehnhoff (2008-09-22 23:32:54)
Big Chess Championship
I think, the Big Chess Championship should be announced as a championship. We should not use this M-tournament instead.
Thibault de Vassal (2008-09-23 16:31:27)
Big Chess Championship
Well, we still do not have big chess players enough but a championship may help after all... We can't have it every 6 months and I assume it would be quite different than the chess championship... How do you see it ? Any ideas welcome :)
Heinz-Georg Lehnhoff (2008-09-28 16:45:05)
Big Chess Championship
To drive this theme I propose a champions-league-type tournament with a new round every 18 month. At the beginning the groups can be built according to our rating list.
Other ideas?
Best,
Heinz-Georg
Thibault de Vassal (2008-09-28 21:51:45)
Big Chess Championship
18 months is so long :/ .. In my opinion, the scheme could be the same than the Go championship :
"FICGS world Go championship is a 2 stages tournament. First stage is a single round-robin tournament, involving the 9 highest rated players who entered the waiting list. The winner of this tournament is the challenger for FICGS world champion title. In case of equality, the player with the strongest tournament entry rating (TER) is qualified for the next stage. If tournament entry ratings are equal, ratings when the next stage begins will be taken in account. If current world champion defends his title, he will play a 5 games match against his challenger."
Heinz-Georg Lehnhoff (2008-09-28 22:33:50)
Big Chess Championship
I don't like the idea to exclude players with a minor rating.
And the length / duration of a Big Chess game does not depend on the mode of the tournament.
Thibault de Vassal (2008-09-29 14:10:43)
Big Chess Championship
The real problem with Big Chess games is that the length / duration can be almost infinite :)
William Taylor (2008-10-03 14:43:56)
Big Chess Championship
I like the idea of making it like the Go championship because it's simple. As for excluding players, I'm not sure there are many more than nine who would want to play anyway. If there are lots of players outside the top 9 who would want to play in the championship, perhaps there could be two stages of tournament. For example, if 21 people entered, we could have 3 groups of 7, with the top 2 from each group advancing to the next stage. Then there would be a six-player tournament to determine the challenger, followed by a match challenger vs previous champion. For the 1st championship the champion could either be the winner of the 2nd-round tournament, or the winner of a match between the top 2 finishers in the 2nd-round tournament.
Arne Sigvald Engo (2008-10-28 11:01:31)
Big Chess Board
Does anybody know where to procure board & pieces for BigChess ?
Thibault de Vassal (2008-10-30 12:08:18)
Big Chess
Big Chess is only in your mind, no board, no engines ;)
Normajean Yates (2008-10-30 15:23:39)
Thibault plays bigchess blindfold? ;)
<<Big Chess is only in your mind>> - Thibault de Vassal.
That makes quite a good quote! [seriously!]
I have to see the board on the screen at least: I can't play bigchess *totally* in the mind ... ;)
Normajean Yates (2008-10-30 20:06:18)
Why thibault? Relax! I am on your side!
seriously, that's a damn good quote:
<<Big Chess is only in your mind>> - Thibault de Vassal.
and <<Why thibault? Relax! I am on your side!>> - that also I meant seriously... not to worry, no quid pro quo :)
Normajean Yates (2008-10-31 03:38:44)
similarly,smallest natural *extension*-
similarly, what is the *smallest* natural *extension* of chess? [Again I am reposting this idea - i did it a few months ago]
Think about it this way, as far as way of moving is concerned, [keeping aside pawns for the moment] you have R, B, N moving in essentially different ways. Q = R + B as far as movement is concerned - i.e. a queen can move like a rook or like a bishop, as the player chooses. The movement of the Q is nothing more and nothing less.
So, to extend chess minimally and naturally [therefore extending the symmetry also] IMO the natural choice of new pice would be a piece which I call the superqueen, lets call it U [because S is knight in chess problems and in many non-english roman-script languages..]. The superqueen U moves like a R, a B, or a N, according to mover's choice. In other words, it moves like a Q or a N.
movewise, U = R + B + N = Q + N.
Now keeping symmetry and minimality in mind we get 10x10 chess with the following starting position:
rnbqukqbnr/pppppppppp/10/10/10/10/10/10/PPPPPPPPPP/RNBQUKQBNR.
In 10x10 castling O-O and O-O-O, it may be more natural for the king to move *three* squares [and the R crosses the king and goes adjacent to the new position of the king, just like in 8x8 chess.]
Actually long ago (1981-82) we tried this 10x10 a few times with some friends - we used to call *this* 10x10 thing 'big chess' :(
[we used a one-pound coin heads-up and tails-up for white and black superqueen resp.]
But the name bigchess is taken [and bigchess is nice :) ] , so I am just calling it 10x10 chess now..
Thibault de Vassal (2008-10-31 20:37:59)
10x10 "super" chess
The 10x10 variant seems much more funny but it is not so far from 8x8 chess. Ok, let's say that 5x5 chess is a "natural" variant, but I see no real interest to play it yet as the first 5x5 chess engine will be probably invincible :/
16x16 big chess is too long but IMO the great interest is that the pieces are the same and it is far enough from computer chess (unlike chess 960)... But it is not played enough yet and the more tournament categories, the more variants (..whatever), the less players in each one. This site is firstly dedicated to competition, unlike some other sites that offer tens of variants and it is not compatible IMO :/ .. Big chess & chess 960 + all unrated categories are a lot of chess tournaments already, maybe too many.
Rick Spangler (2008-11-16 07:54:30)
in big chess can u o-o or o-o-o
is this possible
Thibault de Vassal (2008-11-16 19:40:46)
Big chess : no castling
Hello Rick, the answer is no.
See rules for more details - http://www.ficgs.com/membership.html
Thibault de Vassal (2008-11-24 14:32:29)
future
My hope is that more poker players will play chess, and that more chess players will play poker (the same for Go, big chess...)
Thibault de Vassal (2009-01-11 14:27:55)
Engines allowed
Hello Tom, actually there is a "NO ENGINES" tournament category. Well, I'll try to make it clearer. It is not possible to verify if engines are used or not in any correspondence chess place, so chess engines are allowed in all tournaments but this specified category where games are not rated.
If you really want to play "chess" without engines, you may try BIG CHESS here :)
Sophie Leclerc (2009-01-19 21:51:23)
Big chess pieces values
Hello, I have just how terrible the board in Big chess are for the pieces, so, I would presume the pieces values are much differant than in normal chess. I wonder, If a pawn worth 1, how much the knight, bishop, rook and queen would worth ? Forget the king as hs is alone and too slow to participate in the action.
Thibault de Vassal (2009-01-20 20:07:44)
Big chess pieces values
It has been discussed in this forum also :
David Grosdemange suggested :
"pawn : 1 knight : 2,5 bishop : 4 rook : 6 queen : 11"
I quite agree with this.
Thibault de Vassal (2009-01-27 16:40:31)
We need more Big Chess players !
Come on, let Rybka & other chess engines work in your 8x8 games & play Big Chess with us, that's the real life, amazing chess & the only way to see such incredible moves :)
http://www.ficgs.com/user_page.php?page=viewer&game=24656&move=85
Waiting lists > Big Chess standard tournaments !
Waiting for strong players in Big Chess standard M tourney.
Thibault de Vassal (2009-03-08 23:10:38)
Big Chess World Championship
Hello all,
Finally, the very first Big Chess World Championship will start in a few months... Feel free to train to this incredible game before the event :)
The tournament should be a multi-stage round-robin tournament. Feel free to make suggestions if you have ones, thanks in advance.
Don Groves (2009-03-08 23:23:50)
How long...
... does a typical big chess game last?
Thibault de Vassal (2009-03-10 11:10:11)
Big Chess Games
That's the problem... Usually a big chess game is quite short (often shorter than regular chess games), but between two strong opponents, theorically it may last more than 1 year with time control 30 days + 1 day / move.
Heinz-Georg Lehnhoff (2009-03-10 15:22:31)
Big Chess World Championship
Hello Big Chess fans!
I have finished about 120 Big Chess games. Only 5 last more than a year (all with Thibault :) ).
I propose that the WCH should be a 2 stage round-robin tournament starting once per year. As usual the groups of the first stage should be filled according the Big Chess ratings.
The winner of each group is qualified for the second stage. If more players are needed to build a final group of 7, 9 or 11 players Thibault can invite the best of the second placed of the first stage groups.
If all players of the final group are known the second stage should be started within a month.
I hope this WCH will be a success :)
Thibault de Vassal (2009-03-10 18:28:08)
Big Chess WCH
Yes, I agree... 2 rounds would be enough. If the current champion plays a final match against a challenger, it would take one more year at least. That's a pity.
Samy Ould Ahmed (2009-03-22 17:44:07)
Big chess
In big chess it will be very useful :p
Heinz-Georg Lehnhoff (2009-03-22 23:57:33)
notation
Hello Denis,
I answered to a question of Samy according to Big Chess. There we have four rooks :)
You should try this great game :)
Denis Ivanchenkov (2009-03-29 13:54:47)
Heinz-Georg Lehnhoff
Hello Heinz-Georg,
>I answered to a question of Samy according to Big Chess.
>There we have four rooks :)
>You should try this great game :)
oh - I see the point! :)
yeah - I'd love to try big chess game - though i need a bit more free time - maybe in summer vacations? this must be fun and combinationally more intensive game ! :)
Thibault de Vassal (2009-04-03 00:36:29)
number of games
Hello Raman, the max number of chess, big chess & Go games that you can join currently is 50. The same for poker games.
William Taylor (2009-04-08 20:54:57)
Missed this thread...
I was just thinking of nagging you again for a Big Chess Championship when I stumbled upon this thread. Seems I don't check the forum often enough. Any start date decided on yet? Regarding the format, in general I prefer championships to be decided by a match, though of course it would take longer.
Thibault de Vassal (2009-04-09 01:07:41)
54/50
That's normal, you currently have 54 running chess, chess 960, big chess or Go games.
Ranganathan Raman (2009-04-15 22:50:29)
Suggestion for my games
how do i find easy way to my games?each game type
Chess,Big Chess, Go and Poker Holdem
Suggestion heading it ex:
Chess
Game 28237 ! Raman - Lois 26... Nd3+ -1 days
Game 28241 ! Dadban - Raman 57. g3+ 13 days
Big chess
Game 28645 ! Raman - Rakovic 39... Rh1+ 0 days
Game 28653 ! Raman - Ruzin 48... Qb1+ 20 days
Go
Game 28913 ! Sternik - Raman 43. c4+ 2 days
Game 28922 ! Lois - Raman 30. Qxh6+ 4 days
Poker Holdem
Game 28976 ! Carrizo - Raman 30. g8Q+ 35 days
Game 28989 ! Raman - Sternik 29... Rh2+ 1 days
Philip Roe (2009-04-28 19:50:26)
Thanks for the appreciation, Normajean
I hadn't seen Sophies post. Do you have a line, Sophie? The knight looks awfully slow! Perhaps Big Chess needs Big Knights.
Normajean Yates (2009-05-11 02:07:31)
thoughts on Big Chess... and tips...
I find bigchess more and more fascinating.. I Think it is a wonderful creation of Thibault's (I presume it is Thib. who created it: any way he offers it seriously on this site...) - the starting position is very well-concieved..
I think Bigchess needs more publicity. This is about the only place one can play it - and here there are 2-3 top-class players; less than 20 middle-standard players (including me); others try it once or twice and for some reason get scared or overwhelmed and give up - I see no reason why..
Bigchess gives no advantage on account of huge memorisation of theory, or of better engines: there are *no* theory books; and there are no known engines in existence (probably there isnt one - too little demand, and writing a *good* engine is somewhat laborious, coming up with a *good* static-eval function is tricky, fast board-implementation issues...), so it is all wits...
In fact last week I spend part of two days writing down whatever theory I could discover [with help from top games], it comes to half a page..
Tips for people who want to try bigchess:
1. Bishops are much more powerful than Knights. (because of much longer range compared to 8x8 chess).
The consensus on the values of bigchess pieces is David Grosdemange's valuation:
pawn=1
knight=2.5 (written 2,5 in the continent, of course)
bishop=4
rook=6
queen=11
2. In the opening position, the c,f,L and o-pawns are unprotected.
So, if white's opening move is with the j2-Knight ( freeing the queen), then on move 2 white can move the Queen and threaten to pick up a pawn by forks.. Similarly for black.
*However*, such pawn gambits are quite playable because the Queen can be forced to make many moves to capture a pawn, while the gambitting side develops their pieces.
3. Most Important For Many People: board for offline analysis.
Best of course, is to take time to draw a 16x16 board on paper and stick it on cardboard. And get hold of four sets of chess pieces.
Another way: print a position, and after a move is made - just update the position using correction fluid (typewriter/printer-ink erasing fluid) or something. That way you don't have to keep printng a lot of positions.
Daniel Parmet (2009-05-11 03:02:30)
thoughts
oh also the reason I don't play more big chess is cause the average game goes over 200 moves and that assumes they resign once its clear they are lost... I can see games going to 600 moves if you play to mate.
Thibault de Vassal (2009-05-16 19:41:58)
When the knight overplays the bishop
Yes, it is possible at Big Chess too !
An interesting game to watch : Pichelin vs. Legrand 0-1
http://www.ficgs.com/user_page.php?page=viewer&game=31148
What do you think ?
Thibault de Vassal (2009-07-28 19:35:16)
Tournament Entry Rating (TER) history
Hello all,
A new feature, now you can see graphics for your correspondence chess, advanced chess, big chess, Go (weiqi) and Poker Holdem TER history.
To see your TER history, several ways :
1) Direct link with username :
http://www.ficgs.com/players/devassal_thibault/history.html
2) Direct link with member id :
http://www.ficgs.com/display_history.php?member=1
3) Preferences : Click the magnifying glass then click History
Why a TER history ? Because TER are more significant (and less numerous) than every rating changes for most games.
Thibault de Vassal (2009-09-23 11:19:51)
Big debate
The debate is growing and things are just getting more fuzzy :)
I do not really agree on the comparison with OTB chess, accidents may happen also (less often) eg. when you're lost in your thoughts... anyway, I guess that there is no takeback at ICCF, am I right ?
Of course this rule will also apply for the other games (big chess, Go, poker holdem). Right now, my opinion is not clear yet :/
Peter Marriott (2010-05-16 20:46:15)
Big chess engine
Why not make a big chess engine? :P Or will it ruin the fun?? :)
Thibault de Vassal (2009-10-29 23:01:27)
Most active players, amazing statistics!
These statistics (updated every 2 days) are available at :
http://www.ficgs.com/about.html
And the overall winner is........ :)
Players most active : General (moves played)
1. Heinz-Georg Lehnhoff : 124234
2. Rolf Staggat : 81806
3. Anderson Barradas : 55829
4. Stephane Legrand : 47936
5. Scott Nichols : 46711
6. Mark Noble : 37387
7. Findlay Murray : 35874
8. Volker Koslowski : 33241
9. Don Groves : 29539
10. Thibault de Vassal : 26104
11. Francisco Gramajo : 25281
12. Sergey Uzdin : 25256
13. Michael Sharland : 24890
14. Josef Riha : 24193
15. Jason Repa : 22765
16. Laurine Ségur : 22577
17. Alexis Bromo : 20198
18. Benjamin Collette : 20112
19. Fernando Vasquez : 19928
20. Laszlo Kis-Kos : 19174
21. Christian Koch : 18450
22. Evgeny Yarkov : 17168
23. Xavier Pichelin : 16559
24. Garvin Gray : 16388
25. Ranganathan Raman : 15750
26. Sebastian Boehme : 15190
27. Zdravko Stoyanov : 15186
28. Nick Ioffe : 15151
29. Phil Cook : 15007
30. Sean McNabb : 14572
31. Daniel Parmet : 13814
32. Ilmars Cirulis : 13118
33. Joaquim Malpalma : 13057
34. Dmitriy Panov : 12733
35. Nelson Bernal Varela : 12119
36. Marco Roncagliolo : 11741
37. Dmytro Romaniuk : 11648
38. Miroslav Rakovic : 11435
39. Nick Burrows : 11242
40. Janeen Walden : 10967
41. Claude Brisson : 10812
42. Sandor Porkolab : 10714
43. Christophe Czekaj : 10678
44. Janusz Kepinski : 10675
45. Peter Willoughby : 10634
46. Benjamin Block : 10633
47. Kate Lubeck : 10155
48. Charlie Neil : 10076
49. Darko Pipac : 10072
50. William Taylor : 10036
Players most active : Go
1. Don Groves : 17026
2. Claude Brisson : 10812
3. Nick Ioffe : 10795
4. Alejandro Suarez-Moreno : 10018
5. Mickaël Simon : 8986
6. Thibault de Vassal : 8870
7. Sean McNabb : 8666
8. Sergey Tarassov : 8236
9. Phil Cook : 8186
10. Tetsuya Kobayashi : 7816
Players most active : Chess
1. Josef Riha : 24119
2. Fernando Vasquez : 19820
3. Zdravko Stoyanov : 14523
4. Anderson Barradas : 12587
5. Ilmars Cirulis : 12200
6. Laszlo Kis-Kos : 12068
7. Janusz Kepinski : 10675
8. Garvin Gray : 10638
9. Scott Nichols : 10211
10. Charlie Neil : 10076
Players most active : Chess 960
1. Christophe Czekaj : 1224
2. Joaquim Malpalma : 916
3. Frederick Estieu : 672
4. Ilmars Cirulis : 605
5. Pavel Háse : 600
6. Sefa Sarihan : 524
7. Sandor Porkolab : 512
8. Jay Melquiades : 495
9. Christian Koch : 470
10. Rick Spangler : 447
Players most active : Big Chess
1. Heinz-Georg Lehnhoff : 5583
2. Peter Willoughby : 4368
3. José Carrizo : 3319
4. Thibault de Vassal : 3199
5. Mark Noble : 2949
6. Sandor Porkolab : 2467
7. Volker Koslowski : 1887
8. Paul König : 1790
9. William Taylor : 1706
10. Ranganathan Raman : 1620
Players most active : Poker Holdem
1. Heinz-Georg Lehnhoff : 111119
2. Rolf Staggat : 75570
3. Stephane Legrand : 41639
4. Anderson Barradas : 38671
5. Scott Nichols : 36500
6. Findlay Murray : 33008
7. Mark Noble : 31172
8. Volker Koslowski : 25829
9. Michael Sharland : 20721
10. Francisco Gramajo : 20431
Congrats Heinz-Georg, definitely you're the most addicted player ;)
Pavel Hase (2009-11-30 15:20:51)
Big Chess
I not can find complette rules.
Whitout castling?
And en passant?
Probably change figur value:
My guess, if N=3 (slow for board 16x16), then B=5-6, R=10-12, Q=22-30 ....
William Taylor (2009-11-30 20:05:49)
Already discussed
Hi Pavel. The question of big chess piece values has already been discussed in this thread: http://www.ficgs.com/thoughts-on-Big-Chess-and-tips-q7154.html
As for castling and en passant - castling is not allowed, and I'm unsure about en passant.
Thibault de Vassal (2009-11-30 21:18:17)
Big chess rules
Hi Pavel,
When you enter a big chess tournament waiting list, it is specified "(...) The special rule is no castling is possible", so by default, en passant is authorized like in regular chess.
It is not so clear though, so I'll add it in the rules, thanks for pointing it out :)
Thibault de Vassal (2009-12-01 09:08:38)
Notin movement
What what ? What is this Notin movement ? Can anyone explain ?
About big chess pieces values, I agree that the pawn value is most probably less than considered before... Now I would say something like Q = 15.
Thibault de Vassal (2009-12-07 16:22:02)
He already did change his mind (?)
True, true...
So you say he changed his mind again? Where did you read it?
Maybe he'll play Go (or Big Chess) :o)
Lazaro Munoz (2010-01-29 06:05:09)
Piece Values in Big Chess
I am amazed at the number of opponents that are still applying piece value from regular chess in big chess.
I made some regression analysis based on what we value in regular chess in terms of mobility and applied to big chess. Using the pawn and knight as the standard since in both games 3 pawns will probably beat a knight (if they are separated far enough). I assigned the pawn the value of 1 and and knight a value of 3 and extrapolated variables that we seem to use in valuing the other pieces such as number of squares it can reach, and penalty for being stuck on the same color.
I got the following values:
Pawn=1
Knight=3
Bishop=7 **
Rook=9
Queen=16
** The bishop value changes by pairs available, for example 4 white square bishops don't even come close to value 2 white squares and 2 black squares bishops so this is best value but it can go down to 6 or even 5 as pairs are lost.
Interesting, just like in chess a rook+bishop almost equals a queen and two rooks beat a queen. And a queen equals the value of the pawns (ok similar).
I still find opponents who exchange bishops for knights with impunity, not knowing the true values of the pieces.
I notice that nobody has ever mentioned this. I hope I did not give out some deep secret.
Of course you mileage may vary.
--laz
Luc-Olivier Leclerc (2010-01-29 07:10:50)
Piece Values in Big Chess
well. Some ending may really hard.
just like bishop versus knight, I don't think it would be easy to win.
of curse, do it if you got your queen trapped. man,
I love this game, we all start with four weak pawns. and lose at least 1.
Lazaro Munoz (2010-04-13 20:40:15)
More ratings questions
This time one big chess. According to rules for big chess (I actually read it first before posting :), it says that the original rating that is used for calculations is the correspondence rating, which should have been 1785, however it appears that 0 was used instead. In the section that I almost finishing I am now 5 out 5 with 1 game left. The ratings of the other players ranged from 1800 down 1200 (roughly) initially. My current provision rating is 1609 and it seems that all my opponents have lost at least 200 ratings points in the process of playing in this tournament.
If rating system had used a real low rating as the initial for myself it would have been unfair to both myself and all of the other players in my section.
Thibault de Vassal (2010-04-13 22:30:46)
Big chess ratings
Hi Lazaro!
"Big chess ratings are first estimated from current correspondence chess ratings (current rating -300 points, with at least 1400), then adjusted in real time after each result (...)"
http://www.ficgs.com/membership.html#rating_big_chess
When you entered your first big chess tournament, the TER was not specified but your current correspondence chess rating was used (minus 300) to calculate your first big chess rating with your first result, so a rating of 1609 seems ok taking account of your opponents ratings. The first results may look quite arbitrary but some rules prevent to lose too many points when losing against a strong opponent with a low rating. Anyway there should be more class categories to get more chances to improve ratings (to be continued), we needed more players but maybe we can do it now.
Thibault de Vassal (2010-04-16 23:14:32)
Touch move option for Poker & Big Chess
Now the touch move option also works for Poker (fold, call, bet, raise & all in buttons) & Big Chess.
Thibault de Vassal (2010-04-16 23:18:05)
Poker : touch move + bet button
I've just changed the value of the "Bet" button from half the opponent's pot to twice the opponent's pot. This looks like more logical & may accelerate games... But the min bid rule has not changed yet! The min bid issue is being discussed there :
http://www.ficgs.com/user_page.php?page=forum_read&id=8254
Please note that the TOUCH MOVE option (see Preferences) now also works with Poker (fold, call, bet, raise & all-in buttons) & Big Chess.
Thibault de Vassal (2010-05-10 12:15:16)
Big chess world championship
The very 1st Big Chess world championship (ever!) waiting list is open, the tournaments will start on july 1st, 2010.
Now it is time to promote again this incredible game where chess players may be quite lost during the first games (the value of the pieces may move quite fast), its complexity is probably somewhere between chess & Go...
Just let your chess engines on your chess games, you only need your brain on the 16x16 board, join the fun! :)
Thibault de Vassal (2010-05-10 12:34:09)
More Big chess categories
Also I've added a few more big chess tournaments categories to help players to find their place faster in the rating list.
It is also possible to play Big Chess bullet bronze games, as a test for now...
Thibault de Vassal (2010-05-13 23:09:38)
Big chess engine
I'm very curious to see if this idea to see a Big Chess engine will give something one day :)
http://talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=34284
It could be a new challenge for programmers...
William Taylor (2010-05-14 13:01:56)
Big chess world championship
It seems there is no final match phase for this. Do you plan to have a match between defending champ and challenger in future editions of the championship, and if not, why not?
William Taylor (2010-05-14 13:03:40)
Big chess engine
The prevailing opinion in this forum has always been that the huge board would make an engine really hard or impossible. That doesn't seem to be the case at talkchess so far.
Thibault de Vassal (2010-05-14 14:21:50)
Big chess world championship
In my opinion the duration of the games is too unpredictable to organize a cycle with 3 rounds or more like regular chess... 1 round here may take a year, maybe more. Maybe we can envisage to change the rules after the first cycle if the games go fast enough. To be continued...
Thibault de Vassal (2010-05-14 14:23:53)
Big chess engine
It wouldn't be so hard to make an engine, I'm just very curious on which level it can play... I hope there will be people to throw themselves into that challenge, that would be interesting! :) .. I replied at talkchess, let's see how this will evolve.
Heinz-Georg Lehnhoff (2010-05-15 01:25:36)
Big chess engine
Does the world really need a Big Chess engine? I can live very well without it. If I absolutely like to play against machines, I can play normal chess.
Benjamin Block (2010-05-17 14:47:44)
Why not make big chess engine.
I really want to make a big chess engine but the problem is that i don´t know how to programme yet. I will start learing it in school 2011, i really look forward to it.
Thibault de Vassal (2010-05-17 20:16:52)
Big chess engine
Of course we do not need an engine, but it would be really interesting to see a program playing Big Chess IMO. It would reveal the real complexity of the game. I don't think it would ruin the fun as most Big Chess moves are equally playable in most cases....
Benjamin Block (2010-05-18 15:54:17)
Big chess engine
True Thibault. But it would be good to have to avoid blunders.
Daniel Parmet (2010-10-16 04:16:12)
It is NOT Chess
http://www.notchess.com/rules.php
check it out looks a big chess variation of Yasser Seirawan's idea with a few other quirks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nht2TqabPr0
Thibault de Vassal (2011-02-02 19:50:00)
Update for BigChess & Poker rating rules
Hi all, it was a long time there wasn't any update in rating rules.
First of all, as the number of results at Poker Holdem is quite high, I feel that a change should be tried so that ratings move less fast.
Case of a win (rating > 1999) : New Rating = ((39 x Current Rating) + (1 x Performance)) / 40
Case of a win (rating < 2000) : New Rating = ((38 x Current Rating) + (2 x Performance)) / 40
Case of a loss : New Rating = ((39 x Current Rating) + (1 x Performance)) / 40
As for Big Chess, the ratings deflate because there isn't the same rule than in Poker or Advanced Chess, this is now fixed :
If there's a winner and if his rating is below 2000, his new rating his :
New Rating = ((18 x Current Rating) + (2 x Performance)) / 20
Otherwise :
New Rating = ((19 x Current Rating) + (1 x Performance)) / 20
This rule may look strange from a mathematical point of view, but combined to the other rules that provoke deflation, it gives really good results IMHO. Let's see how it works here.
Thibault de Vassal (2011-05-10 12:09:36)
Big Chess championships 1 & 2
Hello all,
Finally the 2nd Big Chess championship started, with 3 players who should replace forfeiting players within 15 days. You still can enter the waiting list for replacements. Sorry for this month late :/
The final tournament of the 1st championship started as well... There was kind of a dilemma as I'm not comfortable with the idea of inviting myself to complete a tournament, but best was IMO to follow the current rules (tournaments of at least 7 players) so I had to invite 2 players. For the 2nd one, with 4 groups only I'll have to invite 3 players (most probably 2 players with 5 points out of 6 and the highest Big Chess rating when the tournament starts).
Thibault de Vassal (2011-12-15 21:01:47)
Big chess art :)
http://www.ficgs.com/user_page.php?page=viewer&game=55952&move=301&flip=1
Any other cool drawing?
Don Groves (2011-12-16 05:27:33)
Big chess art :)
What is the black defense called -- the Migrating Geese Defense ;-)
Attila Ba (2013-06-11 10:10:18)
Playing activity top 20 players
As to 'create your own site of you are not satisfied' I'm seriously considering setting up a big chess site of my own. I like the idea of engine free chess very much but I can't get a tournament running here for half a year or so.
My site is not fully working as yet but has fragments that work (you can sign up, modify your profile, create challenges, view the board and make moves on it etc.).
Should you have any comments on the design it has a forum.
you can find it here:
baatti.com
Attila Ba (2013-07-18 10:12:31)
Looking for big chess partners
Looking for big chess partners
I like very much the idea presented by this site of chess played on a bigger than normal board. Since Chess960 destroys theory but does not destroy engines (playing Chess960 for an engine is easy as pie) the only anti-engine way is to go for bigger board sizes. In this way you can measure your true correspondence chess skills independent of engines (on one hand no professional would go and write an engine for a game that is played by very few, on the other hand the number of possibilities soon grow out of hand on bigger boards making the tree search very difficult).
Out of my 18 big chess games on this site I have won 17 and lost 1 making it my most succesful type of game here. But with low player turnouts I simply can't get a tournament running (for half a year or so).
In order to have the possibility to play I have created a site solely for the purpose of playing rated big chess games on a single game basis with wide choice of timers and board sizes.
If anyone is interested please come to baatti.com and let's play big chess.
Thibault de Vassal (2013-07-25 11:13:31)
Looking for big chess partners
Yes, that's unfortunate we have no big chess players enough :/
Robert Knighton (2013-07-25 15:54:51)
Looking for big chess partners
the problem with chess variants is that there are so many of them and most of them have small fan bases.
I have always liked Grand Chess myself
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_chess
Big chess is just too big for me lol
Eduardo Alex Baeza Ibanez (2013-11-06 20:21:23)
FICGS__BIG_CHESS__TOURNAMENT__00
i need some help!!, i was confused, and don't read very well, and then i accept to invitations to play big chess, how can i cancel this? because i don't have time to play a so long game like this, sorry about that, was my mistake.
the name of this tournament is FICGS__BIG_CHESS__TOURNAMENT__00
Jonathan Gresham (2014-05-06 18:00:20)
big chess pgn viewer?
Does the admin need a javascript programmer to make a big chess pgn player? I can contribute :-)
Thibault de Vassal (2014-05-13 22:32:20)
big chess pgn viewer?
Oh wow, that would be great! But I guess this is a lot of work?!
Jonathan Gresham (2014-05-14 17:15:56)
big chess pgn viewer?
it might take me a week or two but I'll put it on source forge or github :)
Timofey Denisov (2014-05-16 16:39:39)
big chess pgn viewer?
and I think would be good to develop PGN converter FICGS notation to Winboard notation (squares a0 - p15 with letter i, short notation a la "common" chess).
Sample:
[Event "Edited game"]
[Site "CHESSPC"]
[Date "2014.05.10"]
[Round "-"]
[White "-"]
[Black "-"]
[Result "*"]
[FEN "rnb1rbnqknbr1bnr/pppppppnnppppppp/7pp7/16/16/16/16/16/16/16/16/16/16/7PP7/PPPPPPPNNPPPPPPP/RNB1RBNQKNBR1BNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
{--------------
r n b . r b n q k n b r . b n r
p p p p p p p n n p p p p p p p
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P P P P P P P N N P P P P P P P
R N B . R B N Q K N B R . B N R
white to play
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1. g3 d13 2. f3 Nh12 3. Njk2 m13 4. m3 Qn9 5. h3 Qxn1 6. Nn2 Qg8 7. e3 Bj8
8. f4 Bh9 9. Nj3 Nm14 10. Bk5 Nc13 11. Qo7 Nl12 12. Qxo14 n13 13. Qo4 Rpo15
14. Qg4 Qxg4 15. hxg4 Nk10 16. Nhi3 Ni9 17. Nc2 Ro7 18. d3 Nj7 19. Bl4 Rn7
20. l3 Ngi14 21. Ngh2 Bi8 22. e4 Ro15 23. Bo4 e13 24. Ni4 Be14
Jonathan Gresham (2014-05-17 02:17:07)
big chess pgn viewer?
interesting
Peter W. Anderson (2014-09-22 18:12:09)
What is the longest game of Big Chess?
I noticed that in one of the Big Chess world champs there was a game that was 280 moves long. I was wondering if this was the longest. Does anyone know of any longer ones?
Stephane Legrand (2014-09-27 17:48:59)
What is the longest game of Big Chess?
See About menu
Peter W. Anderson (2014-09-27 18:57:06)
What is the longest game of Big Chess?
Thanks Stephane
Scott Nichols (2015-07-11 20:22:09)
Just curious, 2 questions
Hi Thib, I just wondered if you made your own Big Chess set? Also, I wish to know why the "fold" is whited out in poker. I know it's because it doesn't cost anything to call, but sometimes I want to fold anyway (to muck), so he don't see the awful cards I was betting on, :)
Thibault de Vassal (2016-01-19 00:14:29)
(Random idea)
Looking for Big chess tablebases ? :)
Ilmars Cirulis (2016-01-27 16:52:41)
(Random idea)
ChessOK and other sites have it only for 8*8 board. Big Chess, for example, is bigger.
Garvin Gray (2016-02-28 02:30:53)
Chess960
I am wondering, we have big chess and other chess variants, would there be a lot of interest in having a chess 960 world championship and tournaments?
Thibault de Vassal (2016-03-13 02:23:08)
Chess960
Sorry, I meant: A few rated games (correspondence chess, Go & big chess) was a choice from the start...
Ilmars Cirulis (2017-01-09 13:35:17)
Defeating Draw Death
Just play Big Chess. :)
Peter W. Anderson (2017-04-19 13:42:06)
WCh and other ramblings
Congratulations to Eros for retaining his FICGS world title again. A casual glance at our 36 games might give the impression that I did not put him under much pressure apart from in game 95512. Actually it is more a case of him making it look easy. He generally plays extremely accurately in the opening and avoids deeply hidden pitfalls in the middle game – I always get the feeling that I am playing someone who understands the game well rather than someone purely reliant on engines.
I have decided to give up playing normal correspondence chess. Engines have simply become too strong and the amount of human input into my games has decreased over time. Human input remains (games 95516, 95512, 93727/87343 being good examples), but there is far too much hard work with engines these days for my liking. I am sure a GM would add a lot more value but I am a mere mortal! I will probably play some big chess instead. I tried this a couple of times and really enjoyed it. I just hope nobody writes an engine for it.
With regards to the format of the world championship, we need to recognise that with engines getting stronger the draw odds is a bigger and bigger advantage for the champion. Despite that I personally think the current format is fine. I generated a significant advantage in 2 games – in addition to game 95512, I believe game 87337 offered real chances if I had not forgotten to play 25.Nb4 as intended (I could barely look at a chess board for a month after screwing that game up, but that is another story). If people keep trying they may eventually beat Eros. The bigger issue to my mind is Eros’s own statement of boredom with defending the championship. So time for a change when the current cycles are finished?
Thibault de Vassal (2018-01-20 01:15:06)
New feature : picture of the game
As you may have seen in the "move_express" page or "viewer" page, it is now possible to generate a picture of a game (available for chess, big chess & Go, not poker holdem).
The picture is also "attached" to the public viewer page, eg. http://www.ficgs.com/game_98779.html when you share the url.
It is particularly convenient to share a game result or a position (just add the move number in the url) in your favourite social networks...
Any feedback is welcome, if you have any suggestion :)
William Taylor (2018-04-15 14:07:42)
Big chess castling
Thibault,
Have you ever considered allowing players to castle twice in big chess, giving a mechanism to allow similar castled positions to normal chess? For example, from the starting position the king could castle once to kingside, ending up on l1 with the rook on m1, and then again, ending up on p1, with the rook on o1. He could also go the other way, finishing on c1 after castling twice.
Thibault de Vassal (2018-04-15 18:52:45)
Big chess castling
Hi William,
Everything is possible, as for me I always disliked the strange castling rules at chess 960 and didn't want to complexify rules for Big Chess (now also called Sweet Chess at another website, if I remember well :))
It is too late for a change on this one, but it is always possible to create new chess variants.
William Taylor (2018-06-02 14:31:46)
Order games load in
Hi Thib,
Currently when we make a move in a game, another loads automatically afterwards which may or may not be of the same type. Personally I like to make moves in all of my Go games (for example), followed by all of my big chess games, rather than switching between games. What do you think about changing the algorithm which determines which game loads next to facilitate this?
Cheers,
Will
William Taylor (2018-06-06 23:18:06)
Order games load in
Thanks - that partially works, but not being able to separate chess and big chess is still annoying (for me). I understand adding another icon for big chess might be confusing for some though (people who don't play big chess).
Thibault de Vassal (2018-09-24 00:15:43)
Some questions to H. Kruse, WCH finalist
After that the last FICGS chess WCH final match finished, the choice was made again to ask a few questions to Eros Riccio's challenger: Herbert Kruse, for the 2nd time. He kindly accepted to answer it so let's learn a bit more on our top-ranked correspondence chess player.
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Hello Herbert, you're not really a player to introduce as you're very active here and at several chess websites for years, with outstanding ratings in each one (as far as I know), you're the 1st FICGS CUP winner & several times FICGS WCH challenger, each time facing "the wall" Eros Riccio, what could you tell us about yourself particularly as a chess & correspondence chess player?
- i began late with 16 to play my first tournament game, but with 18 i already was kicked out of a night club in company with tony miles ;) (dresscode) had vlastimil hort as trainer for a short time and played in teams with gutman, michalchisin, klovans, gipslis and some other GMs. corr chess i began, because i love to find the truth and because of freestyle, where i began to build very strong computers
What kind of computers do you build? Is it all dedicated to chess?
- i have several dual xeon e5 computers with 64gb ddr3 and 16 to 20 real cores and they all play chess ;)
Once again, GM Eros Riccio managed to draw the 12 games of the match. What are your feelings on these games? How did you estimate your chances to destabilize your opponent in the openings and to create complications enough with White (or Black)?
- this time my feelings were neutral. 1% chances to win, but i hoped he would lose his concentration if i began more games with him (we played 6 other games at the same time)
Doesn't "1% chances to win (the match)" mean about 0.17% to win only one game with White, even when losing one with Black? Isn't it a bit pessimistic after all, or is it the new so called Riccio-effect? :)
- if the strongest players face each other there is no win possible, except some has a mouse slep or forgot something during human interfacing
When did you start playing correspondence chess and what changed since that time? What attracted you most in the game?
- 2004 and evaluation of the position is the key point of improvement since then. attractive was to be better than actual world class players :)
Could you tell us anything on the way you work chess and play your correspondence games? Any tip or secret? (nothing to lose to ask :))
- with black i play for fastest way to 0.00 and with white i try every promising way to make a game for a longer time complicated
Do you use several ones at the same time when analyzing a game? (still grabbing some tips)
- i only use the newest stockfish versions of brainfish and corchess because the other engines are not so good. because i have many games i decide which one gets the most cores and time and let them run in infinity mode until i am happy that can be after 1 week or more sometimes.
You're not far to rank 2nd as a poker player at FICGS, you obviously started to take on Big Chess as well. What other games do you play? Did you consider to play Go already?
- i played go against the german champion and lost so i quit :)) played backgammon money game and internet (in fibs with kit woolsey i played over 100 matches) in bridge i was best bidder in germany 1994 to 1995, but dont play much nowadays
Do you have specific goals to achieve as a player?
- 2 goals, since a long time: be ficgs world champion and win one german bridge championship
How do you imagine correspondence chess evolution within a decade? What kind of engines/computers do you expect to use and what will look like centaur chess according to you? (in other words, what part will remain to the human player in the decision?)
- i think the engines today are already unbeatable, so in 20 years the would still not lose and chess is dead since about 4 years
What did you think about Google Deepmind's Alpha Zero performance vs. Stockfish?
- it was a joke because they let a bad version of stockfish play. i would not have lost one game against az0 and maybe won 2 til 5 out of 100
Conditions of this AlphaZero vs. Stockfish match were very specific (opening books, unbalanced hardware...) What weaknesses did you detect in AlphaZero play?
- it was the lack of precision, what would let it lose against stockfish in its tuned newest version but i look from a view of a player who is used to play with deep 60 :)
It seems that computers did not completely take on Bridge yet, what do you expect within a decade?
- i have not seen bridge programms, but the game is so easy that it must be already mastered by computers
Herbert Kruse (2018-11-25 19:57:12)
cannot enter this tournament
i shall have too many running games (69/50)
but the intention of this rule was to avoid forfaist, what i never did
so my hard work to get rating over 2000 at big chess was for nothing?
Thibault de Vassal (2018-11-25 20:40:52)
cannot enter this tournament
(sorry for the forum bug, had to modify the topic name)
Yes, I fully understand your point here but this rule showed its efficiency over the years according to me.
Well, as you entered Big Chess A & B waiting lists already, I propose to delete your name from the B waiting list & add it to the M waiting list (so that the rule is not broken at the end). Is it ok for you?
Herbert Kruse (2019-03-30 08:08:38)
What is the longest game of Big Chess?
how can i end a game if i already mated my opp 2 days ago?
Thibault de Vassal (2019-04-01 16:09:49)
What is the longest game of Big Chess?
Hello Herbert, you can either wait or call referee.
Herbert Kruse (2019-04-14 08:51:49)
What is the longest game of Big Chess?
http://www.ficgs.com/user_page.php?page=viewer&game=110827
here i did and 4 days no result
Thibault de Vassal (2019-04-14 14:55:30)
What is the longest game of Big Chess?
I always give a chance to players to make it. Now it's adjudicated.
Herbert Kruse (2020-07-25 20:11:24)
What is the longest game of Big Chess?
http://www.ficgs.com/user_page.php?page=viewer&game=123135.html
I played a2-a2q, but the Queen is not on the Board
Herbert Kruse (2020-07-25 20:12:23)
What is the longest game of Big Chess?
a2-a1q
Thibault de Vassal (2020-07-25 20:17:38)
What is the longest game of Big Chess?
Thanks for reporting this bug. Just fixed the game, I'll take care about it.
Herbert Kruse (2020-07-25 20:26:55)
What is the longest game of Big Chess?
Thanks :)
Steven DuCharme (2020-07-29 03:56:24)
What is the longest game of Big Chess?
Longest by time or # of moves?
Thibault de Vassal (2020-07-29 11:48:26)
What is the longest game of Big Chess?
Hah, good idea... I should find the longest by time as well (at least 3 years I think), but there are vacations.
Yeturu Aahlad (2021-04-12 19:10:42)
Poker Rating
At big chess, it is fairly common for one side - typically Black - to be down a pawn early in the game. I have had at least one opponent immediately resign. At Go, a player may blunder in a corner and immediately resign.
On the other hand, I have won many games on time and in many of those cases, the opponent didn't make any moves at all.
Perhaps a subjective challenge deserves a subjective response - I am seeing sound arguments on both sides. Suggestion - if a game concludes under 10 moves, and the winner thinks she has a genuine grievance, she can appeal for the ELO grant and a referee will adjudicate. Herbert's case is very strong. If the losing side didn't make any moves, adjudication need not be allowed, or may be automatically denied. Too many frivolous appeals from a player can lead to disciplinary action including a loss of this privilege. (I don't expect that to happen in this community)
Thibault de Vassal (2021-04-28 00:56:13)
Players ratings
Hello Misha,
"My messages" page specifies : Dear chessfriends, the correspondence chess ratings and FICGS chess database have been updated on March 02, 2021 (next update around May 01, 2021).
Advanced chess ratings, big chess ratings, Go ratings & poker ratings are updated after each game.
Herbert Kruse (2021-06-13 15:44:53)
What is the longest game of Big Chess?
i have 6 big chess mates now und no referee had made this a win :(
Thibault de Vassal (2021-06-13 16:21:10)
What is the longest game of Big Chess?
Hello Herbert. Don't worry, I saw your messages but I always give players a chance to resign in this case. It will be ended soon anyway.
Herbert Kruse (2021-06-13 17:23:37)
What is the longest game of Big Chess?
who resigns after a mate?
Herbert Kruse (2021-06-13 23:03:42)
What is the longest game of Big Chess?
FIDE Laws of Chess:
5.1 The game is won by the player who has checkmated his opponent's king. This immediately ends the game, provided that the move producing the checkmate position was legal.
Thibault de Vassal (2021-06-15 15:36:44)
What is the longest game of Big Chess?
The checkmated player should resign to end the game (and to see it deleted from his list, that is more convenient anyway)
All FIDE chess rules apply at FICGS when there is no FICGS rule. Many rules here are different from FIDE (starting from 50 moves rule)... that is even more true about Big Chess.
Herbert Kruse (2021-06-15 17:15:38)
What is the longest game of Big Chess?
Your own rules say:
"Big chess
Introduction
The object of the game is to checkmate the opponent. This occurs when no further move can prevent the king from being captured.
Rules are the same than in western chess, except castling is not possible"
Herbert Kruse (2021-06-16 18:53:22)
What is the longest game of Big Chess?
b) When a player wins a tournament with an entry fee (not null) and prize, he can choose after the game(s) to keep E-Points (by default) instantly added in his FICGS account or, if he has E-Points enough in his account, a money prize. Entry fees and prizes in E-Points are published on the tournament page in "Waiting lists". If games in such a tournament have not been really played for a win, for example if a participant obviously lost quickly one or several games, these tournaments will not be considered as wins and the player showing this behaviour will lose his E-points involved in the tournament, that will be taken from the winner's account if necessary.
If you ask for a money prize, the tournament prize in E-Points will be taken from your account, then you'll be paid 70 % of the total entry fees in Euros, divided according to the number of winners in the tournament, ie. if you win your game(s) in a Gold 2-players tournament : 70 % of 200 = 140 Euros. This ratio may evolve anytime. (!!!)
is the last you are waiting for?
its 11 days since the first checkmate and my opponnet did not resign
Thibault de Vassal (2021-06-19 11:19:01)
What is the longest game of Big Chess?
Yes, checkmate is the goal (in some way) of the game, but it doesn't say it automatically ends the game. Of course I can specify it.
Finally your opponent did resign... new players do not always get immediately how the site works.
And yes, the ratio may evolve, it happened once only since FICGS started.
Ilmars Cirulis (2021-07-08 11:36:01)
Big Chess theory?
I will start with a low-hanging fruit: bishops are much more worthy than knights, maybe even twice as much.
Ilmars Cirulis (2023-06-03 02:36:50)
GUI for Big Chess?
1) File... -> New Variant
here I choose "standard" and specify "Board size" 16 ranks and 16 files.
2) The FEN for Big Chess starting position is rnb1rbnqknbr1bnr/pppppppnnppppppp/7pp7/16/16/16/16/16/16/16/16/16/16/7PP7/PPPPPPPNNPPPPPPP/RNB1RBNQKNBR1BNR w - - 0 1 (if I haven't made any mistake) - copy it into clipboard
3) Edit -> Paste Position From Clipboard
(or Ctrl+Shift+V)
Thibault de Vassal (2021-07-08 18:10:09)
Big Chess theory?
IMHO the queen is more worthy than 2 rooks... at least for human players ^^
Herbert Kruse (2021-07-08 19:26:19)
Big Chess theory?
for now i think:
pawn 1
knight 4
bishop 8
rook 12
queen 30
Thibault de Vassal (2021-07-09 02:02:20)
Big Chess theory?
I don't think a bishop is worth 2 knights... maybe 6 paws IMO, but bishops of opposite colors also matter.
Herbert Kruse (2021-07-18 11:23:11)
Next Ficgs World Championship Tournament
when will the first round of poker and big chess begin?
Thibault de Vassal (2021-07-18 12:14:42)
Next Ficgs World Championship Tournament
Big chess championship just started... We'll have to wait a few more days/weeks for the poker championship.
@ DonGroves: hi Don, did you receive my messages?
Ilmars Cirulis (2021-10-28 19:09:22)
Big Chess theory?
Maximum amount of pawns to sacrifice for better development is one pawn. :D
Ilmars Cirulis (2021-10-28 19:46:59)
Big Chess theory?
Context: I resigned game with five pawns given away, soon after queen exchange happened. :)
Juri Eintalu (2021-10-29 03:38:54)
Big Chess theory?
It seems that you need bigger knights.
Ilmars Cirulis (2021-10-29 17:36:26)
Big Chess theory?
Do you mean replacing knights with some other type of piece, smth from fairy chess?
Juri Eintalu (2021-10-30 08:19:49)
Big Chess theory?
A moving knight must change the colour.
Ilmars Cirulis (2021-10-30 16:52:12)
Big Chess theory?
That's too radical. :) What about Big Chess crazyhouse? :D
Juri Eintalu (2021-10-30 20:30:34)
Big Chess theory?
I mean, the knight must change the colour of the square every move. It is the most essential thing about the knight in chess.
Ilmars Cirulis (2021-10-30 20:40:50)
Big Chess theory?
Ah, now I got it. Apologies for the misunderstanding. :)
Ilmars Cirulis (2021-10-31 06:26:35)
Big Chess theory?
KQkr ending is not generally won?! :O
https://www.jsbeasley.co.uk/besn/2004b.pdf
and
https://www.jsbeasley.co.uk/besn/2004c.pdf
Thibault de Vassal (2022-02-18 21:34:17)
Grand Dice Chess
Looks like tough! :) Very different from Big Chess... 30 moves only in average is quite surprising.
Brice Boucher (2022-02-25 14:34:43)
Bullet game
organize a game of chess or big chess bullet whenever you want ;-)
Ilmars Cirulis (2022-03-06 00:53:24)
Bullet game
Hmm, I would like to try Big Chess bullet... :)
Ilmars Cirulis (2022-11-30 01:06:20)
I did not win a game since 3 years
> I still believe that Traxler counter attack could bring really good matches, tournaments & championships :)
I'm currently using my e-points for Big Chess matches, but when I get enough of them (Big Chess matches), I would like to play white against Traxler (for e-points, draw counts as loss for white). :D
Ilmars Cirulis (2023-06-03 02:12:00)
GUI for Big Chess?
The title.
Ilmars Cirulis (2023-06-03 02:14:47)
GUI for Big Chess?
I tried the winboard for that purpose but Winboard has extremely weird/annoying way of adding variations to the game file.
Ilmars Cirulis (2023-06-03 02:21:04)
GUI for Big Chess?
Also, Winboard is not going to accept Big Chess games copied from FICGS because it only knows stadard notation (for example, Nj4 etc.).
When I tried doing some analysis, I just copied FEN of Big Chess starting position (but FEN of some other position also works) and then I was free to move pieces around.
Yeturu Aahlad (2023-06-03 02:28:23)
GUI for Big Chess?
Can you provide the complete file for the starting position?
Ilmars Cirulis (2023-06-03 02:37:55)
GUI for Big Chess?
And now you can move pieces around. But don't ask me about making variations, because Winboard's idea of that is awful. :(
Yeturu Aahlad (2023-06-03 21:23:49)
GUI for Big Chess?
Ilmars, which version of winboard are you using? In 4.8.0, "standard" is "normal". With that, I have reproduced your instructions - Thanks!
File->save game and save position are useful, but the saved files can't just be reopened with a double-click. The board size is not represented in the files. Repeating Ilmars' first step, then file->load game or load position works.
Ilmars Cirulis (2023-06-04 00:14:46)
GUI for Big Chess?
I have the same version. It shows "normal", yes, and i wrote "standard" because of some brain fart, probably.
Ilmars Cirulis (2023-06-18 18:59:07)
GUI for Big Chess?
One idea: maybe it is possible to automatically generate FEN for Big Chess game's current position?
It's would make analyzing ongoing games much easier. What do you think?
Thibault de Vassal (2023-07-05 03:11:05)
GUI for Big Chess?
I guess it must be possible... Actually this may be a good idea for regular chess games as well.
Ilmars Cirulis (2023-07-05 22:51:32)
GUI for Big Chess?
Thank you!
Ilmars Cirulis (2024-03-24 10:46:42)
Big Chess in NebiyuAlien engine
How to configure the variation for it?
I'm trying to figure that out. ':)
Thibault de Vassal (2024-03-27 02:27:15)
Big Chess in NebiyuAlien engine
Never heard of this engine before... I have no idea :/
Ilmars Cirulis (2024-03-27 17:33:03)
Big Chess in NebiyuAlien engine
it came with this: http://hgm.nubati.net/miniShogi.html
<< This package includes NebiyuAlien, wich is configurable for almost any Chess-like game through its alien.ini file. >>
Ilmars Cirulis (2024-03-27 17:59:30)
Big Chess in NebiyuAlien engine
https://gist.github.com/IlmarsCirulis/aff106cc69be609b4e1e851aadf87409 - here is my try, will test it by running NebiyuAlien.exe in terminal
Ilmars Cirulis (2024-03-27 18:01:29)
Big Chess in NebiyuAlien engine
Nope, not working correctly :|
Ilmars Cirulis (2024-03-27 21:01:02)
Big Chess in NebiyuAlien engine
Oh, the Big Chess is already in the alien.ini file, it's just called "16x16+0_normal" :)
But it still has castling rights in the start position, it seems. Ok, minor thing to fix.
Ilmars Cirulis (2024-03-27 21:06:17)
Big Chess in NebiyuAlien engine
Okay, so the fixed gist here: https://gist.github.com/IlmarsCirulis/aff106cc69be609b4e1e851aadf87409
Gregory Kohut (2024-05-06 01:38:51)
Big Chess theory?
Does the 3 times repetition rule apply to Big Chess? Does the 50 move rule apply to Big Chess?
Ilmars Cirulis (2024-07-09 20:13:02)
Big Chess theory?
Big Chess endgames with pawns and knights are from outer space, imho. :) I can't say that I understand them.
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