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Thibault de Vassal (2007-04-05 01:58:22)
Big Chess championship
Hello to all.
You may have seen in the chat bar the idea to organize a Big Chess championship at FICGS is in the air.
It could be interesting for several reasons, the first one of course is there's no engine to help players :) .. by the way, it may be really hard to program a good Big Chess engine, it should use some Go concepts combined to a powerful chess engine (with quite different parameters).
Now there are some questions :
- What rules for a Big Chess championship ?
- What about a Big Chess rating ?
In my opinion, there shouldn't be a Big Chess rating. That's a pity, but "simple" chess should remain the main rated game here. Actually, the nature of this game (and time control) makes me think it should remain a friendly game first. However there could a championship for fun...
About the rules for such a championship, it could look like the Go championship : A two-stages tournament, first stage would be a single round-robin tournament with the 7 players who won most Big Chess tournaments (will help to promote tournaments ;)), second stage would be a 6 games match against current champion (if the final score is a draw, the current champion will keep his title).
What do you think ?
Thibault de Vassal (2007-04-05 18:42:04)
Big Chess championship
Actually the problem with a multi-stages (4 rounds or more) tournament is it would finish in 2009 as well :)
With my system, Big Chess tournaments would be a continuous championship. Not perfect for sure, but it may be enough. What do you think ?
Thibault de Vassal (2007-04-06 01:22:32)
Big Chess championship
Simple rules (1 win or lead = 1 point) have some clear advantages...
I have to think about it.
Volker Koslowski (2007-04-12 22:02:56)
Big Chess Championship
I think that a system based up on points suggested by Heinz-Georg is a good idea for a BC Championship. It is not very complex and maybe we must not wait until 2009 for the first final round robin tournament :)
William Taylor (2008-09-18 13:25:56)
Big Chess Championship
I know there was a discussion some time ago about a big chess championship here on FICGS. Now the first 'M' class big chess tournament has started and I think big chess has enough regular players to try a championship. What do you think?
Heinz-Georg Lehnhoff (2008-09-18 20:13:56)
Big Chess Championship
Hello Thibault,
let us start this championship!
Best, Heinz-Georg
Thibault de Vassal (2008-09-18 20:48:47)
Big Chess Championship
Well, I have to find some time to make changes first. Big Chess ratings are probably too confusing :/
Heinz-Georg Lehnhoff (2008-09-22 23:32:54)
Big Chess Championship
I think, the Big Chess Championship should be announced as a championship. We should not use this M-tournament instead.
Thibault de Vassal (2008-09-23 16:31:27)
Big Chess Championship
Well, we still do not have big chess players enough but a championship may help after all... We can't have it every 6 months and I assume it would be quite different than the chess championship... How do you see it ? Any ideas welcome :)
Heinz-Georg Lehnhoff (2008-09-28 16:45:05)
Big Chess Championship
To drive this theme I propose a champions-league-type tournament with a new round every 18 month. At the beginning the groups can be built according to our rating list.
Other ideas?
Best,
Heinz-Georg
Thibault de Vassal (2008-09-28 21:51:45)
Big Chess Championship
18 months is so long :/ .. In my opinion, the scheme could be the same than the Go championship :
"FICGS world Go championship is a 2 stages tournament. First stage is a single round-robin tournament, involving the 9 highest rated players who entered the waiting list. The winner of this tournament is the challenger for FICGS world champion title. In case of equality, the player with the strongest tournament entry rating (TER) is qualified for the next stage. If tournament entry ratings are equal, ratings when the next stage begins will be taken in account. If current world champion defends his title, he will play a 5 games match against his challenger."
Heinz-Georg Lehnhoff (2008-09-28 22:33:50)
Big Chess Championship
I don't like the idea to exclude players with a minor rating.
And the length / duration of a Big Chess game does not depend on the mode of the tournament.
Thibault de Vassal (2008-09-29 14:10:43)
Big Chess Championship
The real problem with Big Chess games is that the length / duration can be almost infinite :)
William Taylor (2008-10-03 14:43:56)
Big Chess Championship
I like the idea of making it like the Go championship because it's simple. As for excluding players, I'm not sure there are many more than nine who would want to play anyway. If there are lots of players outside the top 9 who would want to play in the championship, perhaps there could be two stages of tournament. For example, if 21 people entered, we could have 3 groups of 7, with the top 2 from each group advancing to the next stage. Then there would be a six-player tournament to determine the challenger, followed by a match challenger vs previous champion. For the 1st championship the champion could either be the winner of the 2nd-round tournament, or the winner of a match between the top 2 finishers in the 2nd-round tournament.
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